11th but Positive

by | Apr 4, 2010 | 15 comments

The Hawks handed the Pistons their 11th loss in a row last night.  Despite the fact that is was a L and it did add to what has turned out to one of the most surprising season for Detroit fans, this team competed.  The  85-91 final score doesn’t tell you that he Pistons went neck and neck with the Hawks and had a good chance to take this one.

Key Points:

  • Kwame Brown started the game for the injured Jason Maxiell, who was starting for the injured Ben Wallace.  Two words…GO KWAME.  Kwame started off the game with a thunder dunk that had my surround sound rattling.  Brown finished with 8 points, 8 boards, a steal, an assist and a blocked shot in 29 minutes on the floor.
  • This was the second Thundering Slam from Kwame, watch and listen. Via NBA.com

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  • Ben Gordon 0-for-7 in 22 minutes, I’m sure we aren’t the only ones waiting for his season to be over.
  • Horford and Smith 14 boards each for Atlanta.  Would love to have either of them on this Pistons team.
  • Jamal Crawford 29 points of the Atlanta bench.
  • Pistons shot 37% on the night and 35% from downtown.
  • Rodney Stuckey, back starting (playing the 2) lead the Pistons with 22 points on 8-for-19 shooting.  Stuckey just looks so comfortable at the shooting guard position.

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  • What’s with all the different shoe colors this season?  If I remember correctly, the NBA was a stickler for socks and shoes when it comes to on court uniforms.  It used to be that the whole team had to wear the same color shoes and socks.  And back in the day, Jordan was banned from wearing his signature shoes.  Things sure have changes, because Mike Bibby’s red kicks almost blinded me from my seat at home.
  • This was the kind of effort that you wanted to see every night if you are a Pistons fan.  The L really doesn’t hurt that much when you know that they had a chance and gave it all they had.  If they played like that all season they would have given themselves a chance to win every game.
  • Jonas had a few really swede moves against the Hawks.  He even knocked down a three.  Jonas finished the game with 11 points, 9 boards and yes 4 steals!  How his overall game has improved is dramatically.  Not that he was bad to start the season, but he picked up the NBA game very quickly.
  • Charlie V 3-for-13 for 8 points, 6 boards and a steal.  I think I have been hard enough on V.  I just hope I can comment differently next season.
  • Minimal time for DaJuan Summers, but he did score 2 points on his only shot in his 4 minutes on the floor.
  • Tayshaun with 17 points on 7-for18 shooting with 7 boards, 4 assists and a blocked shot.

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  • No Rip, no Wallace, no Wilcox or Maxiell.
  • 13 for Bynum on 5-for-7 shooting with just 2 assists.
  • This game was tied 11 times with 5 lead changes.
  • If you missed this game, I’m sorry.  After how Detroit has been playing this game was not only fun to watch, but it gave hope.
  • Highlights via NBA.com

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  1. KleenGee

    Nat, I’m glad you see the positives. But, why do we get killed by the 3 pointer? Crawford should’ve been guarded more closely beyond the arc. I would’ve welcomed the Hawks getting the ball inside over his 3 pointers. I haven’t checked the stats lately, but I think this team has a weakness guarding against 3 pointers.

    The game on NBA Broadband was called by ‘Nique who spoke very highly of Jonas. He had some other good points that should be considered: He said that CV31 should be less of a finesse player inside and try to use more power moves. He also criticized Gordon for not going to the basket to get out of his slump. All obvious, so I’m sure these points will be addressed this offseason.

  2. blam

    u guys are serious? I’m glad they lost, they should keep it up until the end of the season, it doesn’t matter now, it only helps.

  3. NJ

    Positive???? that what the Nets were saying all season long lol

  4. Paulyd0021

    Tonight was a great night for Pistons fans, both the Wizards and Golden State won!! We’re now tied for 3rd. Unfortunately the pistons won the 2 meetings with Washington earlier so I believe we hold the tie break 🙁 but we’re getting closer! John Wall, come hither….

  5. Paulyd0021

    starts John Wall chant*

  6. Gogol

    Ties are broken in the NBA by random drawings, not head to head records.

  7. zkranc

    we beat the Wizards four times this year, but we are tied with Warriors at one a piece

  8. daddy

    it was a good weekend fake show lose as well as the cry baby caves and we lose as well. plus indiana and wasington win as well? i couldnt be any happier with this we get more lotto balls. now if they mavs played and lost it would of made it complete but cant complain about almost having it all. rdy for next season JOE D please draft right and trade better.

  9. Jesse

    Is that true about ties as it relates to the draft? I don’t believe it, but can find anything that confirms or denies it. I know for playoff ties they have a series of numbers they turn to in order to declare who gets the higher position: record against your division, against your confrence, point differental, ect. I imagine they would do they same with the draft… unless they just decide that everything draft related will be detrimined by chance… The going by the numbers way does reward team for being bad and punishes other for being good (r better), but the whole draft system is pretty much based on that concept.

  10. Hlmk

    why do u guys want john wall so much? hes just what you DONT need, another guard. Of all the problems Detroit has a guard isnt one of them, they need a big man who can score, rebound and play defense.

    How much time do you think John Wall would get with Rip Hamilton, Rodney Stuckey, Will Bynum and Ben Gordon in the roster?

  11. Brady

    John Wall is a better PG than anyone on the roster, that’s why he would be a good fit. At this point they need to draft the best player and move from there. Wall, Turner, and Cousins are really the only franchise-shaping players (from what we know right now) in this draft, so drafting a guy like Hassan Whiteside (project) or Derrick Favors (less projecty) won’t help now.

    I think the team needs a scoring big, but they need a guy to run this offense, that’s why Chauncey was so valuable, he knew how to run a team. Wall can run an offense and score when he needs to; a back-court of Wall-Stuckey with Thrill and BG off the bench would be able to score a lot. I mean, Thrill, Stuckey and Wall can ALL get into the paint at will, which helps BG and everyone else get open shots.

  12. edt

    I think we can draft anyone as long as we dont get a small forward or shooting guard.

    If we fill any other position, power forward, center, or point guard, the rest of our team will get better. If we fill the point guard, dont forget this means we will be dumping bynum. Then we will have a starting rotation of wall + rip hamilton and coming off the bench will be stuckey and ben gordon.

    Do you know how incredibly pissed they will be? Gah. I really don’t want to have to take John Wall just because of the personality conflicts it will create. Maybe we can deal rip, if we pack him with bynum and jerebko. But if we deal jerebko, that means we will be starting tayshaun, and rip hamilton who arent getting any younger.

    If we get a real power forward, everyone else will magically look a lot better, including Charlie V, whose only power move on defense is to grab someone from behind and foul.

  13. daddy

    i do not want john wall id rather have cousins or a big man. im pretty sure the tay will get traded because his contract is about to end and ppl will want to move some money off the books. as i said before i dont think ppl will make too much fuss for bynum good for us. it seems like real point guards are a dying bread. i dont think wall is as good as everyone thinks just like derrick rose. they are pretty good point guards but nothing to build around, but that only im opinion on the situation.

  14. Jesse

    You guys are crazy. Wall has superstar writen all over him. You’re basically saying “I don’t want this great pg prospect because he have a backcourt that got us 22 wins”. When you are as bad as the Pistons are you take the best player and figure the rest out later. Were not knocking on the door, or just a few moves away here; we are terrible without much hope of getting better in the near future… If elite talent drops in your lap be smart enough to grab it.

  15. Brady

    /\ /\ Agreed. Personally I don’t think Cousins will be with the team that drafts him, his attitude is so awful, he’s a mix of Sheed and Zack Randolph. I think Simmons said it somewhere, but I’d rather be the team that gets DeMarcus Cousins in 4 years then the team that gets him right off the bat, just for attitude reasons.

    If John Callipari can’t keep him in check 24-7 then what makes one believe coach Q can?



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