Amare a Piston? Not likely

by | Jun 10, 2007 | 42 comments

The latest Pistons rumor is that the Pistons are targeting Amare Stoudemire. Marion to Detroit is more likely, but probably still a stretch. A Sherrod Blakely explains.

“….But there’s just one glitch … the Pistons have very little the Suns would want, other than two first-round picks, neither of which is in the lottery.

One of the unwritten rules in trades is that you don’t give up big men for perimeter players. The Pistons’ most attractive assets are perimeter players. And when you look at that Phoenix club, if there’s one thing they don’t need, it’s more perimeter players.

Salary-wise, you could trade Rasheed for Amare, straight-up. I don’t know Phoenix’s new GM Steve Kerr that well, but he can’t possibly be gullible enough to fall for this deal. Even if the Pistons threw in both of their first-round picks, I just don’t see that being enough incentive to give away a player of Stoudemire’s caliber and youth (he’s only 24 years old).

Now don’t get me wrong. Joe D. would love to add a player like Amare to the mix, especially if the only body it would cost him, is Rasheed Wallace. Stoudemire would be a great fit in Detroit … or any other team, for that matter. But the most tradable assets Detroit has are in the backcourt, and there’s no way that the Suns are going to give up an All-NBA big man for any combination of Detroit perimeter players and not get a big man (not named Nazr Mohammed) in return.

A more likely scenario would involve Detroit making a deal for Shawn Marion. He’s not all that thrilled about being the best all-around talent on that team, but still taking a back seat to Steve Nash and Amare.

And with both Detroit and Phoenix looking to do maybe a little more than tweak their roster this summer, a Sheed-for-Shawn trade, with a couple more players thrown in and possibly some cash and/or draft picks, may be just what both teams need right now.”

42 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    HONESTLY NAT I WOULD NOT WANT SHAWN MARION BECAUSE WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN I TAKE PRICE BECAUSE OF HIS DEFENSE AND YOUTH AND PUTTING SHAWN MARION ANYWHERE ELSE ISNT A GOOD FIT IF ANYTHING WHAT WE NEED IS FOR JOE D TO PUT MAXIELL IN THE STARTING LINE UP N KEEP EVERYONE IN DETROIT…….SOME MAY CALL THAT WISHFUL THINKING BUT I CALL IT A GOOD ASS LINE UP

    -SINCERELY NUMBER 1 TEENAGE PISTONS FAN

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  2. Anonymous

    SORRY I MENAT PRINCE NOT PRICE

    -SINCERELY NUMBER 1 TEENAGE PISTONS FAN

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  3. Anonymous

    sheed as a sun ?? man that would be sickk to watch… and i want sheed to stay !!!

    5mooth

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  4. Anonymous

    ugh my heat just fell to my stomach when i read “sheed-for-shawn”

    we are the ONLY fans who can yell “SHEEED” when he touches the ball.. it just wont be right if hes not in detroit (chauncey,rip, and tayshaun too)

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  5. gee gee

    Man all we need to do is get a new coach and replace Saunders with a former coach. We already have an elite team; they just need better guidance, and like ana 1:43 said I can’t see anybody else yelling “Sheed” when he gets the ball its not palpable to me. The only twerking we need is the rotation, replace some of the bench with starters and get them familiar with the rotation and give them more minutes in games and that will strengthen their play. Natalie start a petetion saying that: We Don’t Need A New Roster We Just Need To “Flip” The Script lol. Who’s with me?! I’ll be the first to sign!! lol

    p.s. and i think if we add amare, it’s just like adding more fuel to the fire. we would be getting some many techs it is not funny, we get a lot from sheed and the refs treat amare like sheed with those techs so that is another thing to think about.

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  6. Anonymous

    Look, I wouldn’t care if Marion came to Detroit because I actually like the way he plays, but we would have the smallest team in the NBA! Marion is a small forward, isn’t he?? And I know Golden Boy Tayshaun isn’t going anywhere so why would we want Marion?

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  7. Anonymous

    The problem really lies with our PG and SG in my opinion. We need players who are not only vital offensively, but ones who also play some good defense. I’m sure Golden State could use some big men and we could work out a trade for Baron Davis!! and maybe even Jason Richardson! it would be an all-star alley-oop fest. baron alongside Sheed!!! Two grizzly looking guys that have a team mentality screams, “Deeetroit Basketball!!!”

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  8. Anonymous

    If some how… we could trade Rasheed Nazr Delfino and 1 of the first round Draft Picks for Amare and Marcus Banks… I would do that in a heart beat. I love sheed, but truth be told he is 33? Thats getting up their in the years when we could pick up a 24 year old (new McDyess(when Dyess was young)type player) who dominates the paint on the offense and defensive end. We pick up another good point gaurd and than we are set. Put Jason Maxiell at the PF and Amare at the C… Keep our 3 stars, add Amare… and like Rock financial says, “a winning combination”….

    Nick~~~

    ALTHOUGH i am still hoping we sign Chauncey and Chris… Add Grant Hill and trade for Shane Battier… 🙂 (this is just what i wish, i havent read anything like i said before:0)

    AND.. Hell no for Shawn Marion for Rasheed… Unless you keep Sheed and just trade Tayshaun/Delfino for Shawn… Shawn Marion and Tayshuan foil eachother so well, except Shawn is a little bit more athletic, has a way more ugly three point shot(worse than tayshuans), is a bit older, and probably could gaurd LeBron better. Just my opinions of course 🙂 Hope everyones summer is going well, i know im enjoying mine.

    Nick~~~~

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  9. Bigdee36

    Baron Davis? Have you forgoten that we still have to resign CB1. I’ll take Chauncey over Baron Davis any day. Because Baron Davis is a walking injury. People only want him because they saw him play well in the one series he was healthy enough to play in.

    He got hurt at the end of the Dallas series. He’s always hurt, therefore we cant rely on him.

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  10. Anonymous

    what about moving sheed to center and letting ether j-max or dice start as PF?

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  11. Bigdee36

    If we were to move Sheed to center he might have to gain some more weight.

    But that might work.

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  12. Anonymous

    DBoiDWill@yahoo.com

    I hate 2 say ANYTHING bad about my beloved Pistons, but I got 2 be honest. I think ALL our problems are at the shooting guard position. I love RIP, but in the NBA, u have 2 have a dunking 2 guard 2 win. I cant even count how many games in the season we lost because of RIP getting one of those soft @ss lay ups blocked. He’s tryna be Reggie, and Reggie doesn’t have a ring. All because of him playing how RIP plays today. If he woulda dunked that play that Tay blocked, he might have a ring. I fear RIP is gonna loose a BIG game 4 us in that same fashing… Either he needs 2 lean 2 be more agressive and try 2 dunk every fast break, or he needs 2 be traded. I love him, but he has a college game, and we need a NBA shooting guard.

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  13. Anonymous

    if any of you are interested, game 5 of the 2005 NBA finals of Pistons vs. Spurs is playing right now on ESPN Classic :]

    man do i miss watching the pistons play :[

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  14. Anonymous

    The Pheonix Suns are my second favorite team in the NBA, and I really like Shawm Marrion. He also just turned 29 last month. He could handle a power forward position just fine- he always does well when he has to switch onto larger players.
    However- there’s NO WAY the suns would take ‘Sheed. They have Amare and he’s the only kind of post player that would fits with their style of play- a young and athletic one. Rasheed is outstanding in a half court offence, but he’s too old and it’s too out of his comfort zone to think he’d do well, let alone thrive in a full court set like Pheonix runs. I think a ‘Sheed for Marrian trade would be a steel for detroit, but because on that, it’s not gonna’ happen!
    Also, whomever thinks our backcourt is our problem didn’t watch many games, or they just weren’t paying attention for the last 5 years. Our backcourt is outstanding, I’m not even going to say anything more in there defence because they speak for themselves.
    Lastly, people need to stop telling Nat to start petitions. “Let’s start one to get rid of Flip”, “let’s start one to keep Rasheed”, “let’s strt one to keep Rip and Tay”, let’s start one to not sign Kobe”, blah blah blah…
    Firstly it’s not Nat’s job to jump on our bandwagons and go global with them. Lastly, Joe Dumars doesn’t care what a bunch of disapointed fans THINK his team needs to change. It’s fun to discuss it, because we’re in the off season and it’s an exciting time of change, but Joe D has played nearly 2,000 more NBA games than any of us ever have and he’s made some amazing moves ever since he got his front office position, so we need to keep all that to ourselves and watch trust in him.
    ~Richie~

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  15. shatia

    Oh man………. i want the team as it is right now. It took me a while 2 get over ben leaving let alone mabey realsing a couple of Piston players.and getting new ones. But i really want sheed in a piston uniform. it would look odd having sheed in a suns uniform. I got a question…… is it impossable to have the team as it is now for next season?

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  16. Primetime

    Not a big marion fan

    Ill pass

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  17. Bigdee36

    To me Marion is just a more athletic Tayshaun Prince. We really could use him but if we don’t get him we still have a player just like him in Tay.

    And the Amare thing will never happen. Phoenix will never in a million years give up Amare for Sheed or anyone else for that matter. And me personally, I want to see sheed retire a Piston beacause he’s my favorite player in the NBA.And lastly Rip doesn’t have to dunk to be successful. Because I believe we won a ship with Rip playing the exact same way as he does now. There are no changes needed in the backcourt.

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  18. uyen

    Anyone going to watch game 2 tonight? It has been a week since we lost but I still can’t bare to turn on ESPN, NBA TV, or read anything related to NBA Finals.

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  19. Anonymous

    Well it’s not like we’re gonna watch Bron-Bron and Ginoflopli tonight…try playing around with the espn trade machine:

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

    How’s this one for blowin’ the team up?

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=294~568~883~1017~165~1717~110~2748&teams=13~13~18~8~22~22~8~8

    4 way:
    Sheed to NY
    RIP to LA w/ Nazr
    Pistons get:
    Kobe, Z Randolph, Bynum

    Works on paper…why not?

    Now this is much more entertaining!

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  20. mruuling

    Hey, why won´t we make a list with the best plays of the 2006-2007 season?

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  21. Anonymous

    Unrelated to this, to really mess with David Stern we should all watch the pregame to the NBA finals, then change the channel when it comes on. But if they thought last games ratings sucked, wait till Sopranos tonight.

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  22. Anonymous

    8:14 .. we are not getting nor do we want kobe.. not gonan happen

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  23. Bigdee36

    I’m gonna watch Lebron and the bitch ass Cavs get there asses kicked all over the court. And were not gonna get Kobe so just drop it.

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  24. Anonymous

    im purposly not watching it….i want the ratings to be SOOOO LOW.

    even tho im dying to see it haha.

    PISTON FANS, DONT WATCH IT!

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  25. uyen

    my friend texted me the score. cavs down 19 pts.second quater with 5:27left

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  26. Anonymous

    pistons fans, dont watch the 2007 finals.. we gotta show stern that his gay ass method to get money that is really ruining the nba is NOT working !!! ha

    we need to give him the LOWESTTTTTTTTT RATINGS EVERRRR !

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  27. Chris

    Lowest Finals ratings ever for Game 1 surprised me. I figured the way the national media threw aside the Pistons in favor of one guy was more than enough to do the trick for Stern’s high scores and stars marketing, even if that idiot commissioner can’t figure out how to market Tim Duncan.

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  28. Bigdee36

    Hey everybody I just thought of something. The Miami Heat plummited harder after thier Championship run than we did. I hope that makes you feel better after our loss.

    p.s: The Cavs are down 25 at halftime.

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  29. uyen

    That is true Miami plummeted harder than we did but the argument will always be that D-Wade was not completely healthy. I agree with you completely though.

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  30. Chris

    D-Wade’s on a Grant Hill track more than any other of the big 2003 draft. The way he throws his body around is going to lead to more missed time and more hampered chances, and unlike Detroit, Miami’s screwed with Shaq’s 20 mil per year. Miami can’t possibly deal Shaq until 2009, when his contract’s in the final year. By that time, he’ll be a sub off the bench and a pure cap-saver move for a team like the Knicks or Mavs. Shaq will be about as effective as Dikembe Mutombo currently is for the Rockets.

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  31. Anonymous

    “The Miami Heat plummeted harder after their Championship run than we did. I hope that makes you feel better after our loss.”

    -Yea, but in all fairness, that was in a season that saw Jason Williams get knee surgery, Shaq out for 30+ games, D-wade get a dislocated shoulder, and Pat Riley (a much superior coach to Flip) sit aside for many games cause of hip surgery.

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  32. Bigdee36

    I always said that D-Wade’s style of play was going to come back to bite him one day. He’s a Human mop the way teams mop him across the floor.

    He’s effective but how long can he keep that up. Soon he will be just like Baron Davis and only be effective when he’s healthy, which wont be often.

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  33. Anonymous

    pleaseeeeeee let the spurs sweep the cavs = MOST BORING PLAYOFFS EVERRR ha!

    has there ever been a sweep in the finals??

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  34. Amanda

    ‘Sheed to the Suns makes me laugh. Can you imagine him running and gunning like that? The most effective ‘Sheed is the ‘Sheed who has his back to the basket with the shot clock winding down and considering the Suns HAVE to shoot jumpers before the clock reaches 20, I don’t think he’d be a very good fit.

    I haven’t watched 1 second of the Finals thus far (nor 1 second of Game 6). I feel great!

    The Sopranos was on tonight? Oh, man! I can’t even imagine the ratings for Game 2!

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  35. Anonymous

    i dont think theres really ever been a sweep in the finals haha howwww ironic.. GO SPURS! SWEEP LEBRON (cause hes the only one that actually does anything)!

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  36. Natalie

    The Pistons swept the Lakers in the 1989 Finals, and though I don’t know any others off hand I am sure there have been more.

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  37. TRADE SHEED

    TRADE SHEED. HE’S BEEN FAR TOO MUCH OF A HASSLE EVER SINCE WE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I MEAN HE WAS GREAT THE BUT NOW, HE JUST SUCKS, THE PISTONS DO NEED A SUPERSTAR AND I HOPE THEY GET SOMEONE LIKE JERMAINE/AMARE/GARNETT

    GO PISTONS! TRADE SHEED!

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  38. Anonymous

    to the person above me, how can you say, “GO PISTONS! TRADE SHEED!” in the same sentence and call yourself a fan?

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  39. Anonymous

    Man….. this is hard but…… I believe we need to trade Sheed and possibly get rid of Hamilton if anybody noticed during the entire Cavs series Rip was shooting everytime he got the ball and it wasnt like he normally does he would try and create shots for himself I hardly ever saw him cut and shoot like the used to do when the Pistons were the Beast of the East and Sheed this is probably the hardest but he’s not what he was in 03-04 he shoots 3s now more than ever and he’s not rebounding either I think the reason we lost to the Cavs was because we couldn’t rebound over Ilgauskas and the other big men in the Cavs team but Sheed is probably my favorite player of all time he’s hilarious while playing honestly can’t we just trade him but allow him to sit on our bench and yell out profanities to the refs and get the pistons hyped up and do the circle thing in the beggining of games and let the crowd yell out Sheed even tho he’s on a different team??? I kno itll never happen but thatll be the only way I’ll be ok with trading Sheed he’s the heart and soul of the Pistons

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  40. Anonymous

    LMAO I tried that trade machine and look what I got!!!
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1999~294~568~883~1703~2167~510~2444&teams=7~26~21~21~8~8~8~8

    Pistons get Shawn Marion, Carlos Boozer, J.R Smith, and Boris Diaw

    We lose Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton, Carlos Delfino, and Nazr Mohammed

    This’ll probably never work but hey the money fits haha if we did this we would have one great team

    Center: Carlos Boozer
    P Forward: Shawn Marion
    S Forward: Tayshaun Prince
    S Guard: J. R. Smith
    P Guard: Chauncey Billups

    Wow CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Dumars here I come 😉

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  41. gee gee

    the finals suck because the pistons aren’t there. now i think it would have been higher ratings if the pistons were playing against the spurs because it would have been redemption for the pistons: “can the pistons come back and claim the title after two years” type series. i know i would be glued to the tv to see that.

    anyway. i pray that whatever joe dumars does works for the team even if it means breaking up my beloved pistons. i just hope that if we do see new faces next season that they keep the same mentality and family oriented vibe. no big heads butting, or someone trying to hog the ball trying to be the next micheal jordan, or just a superstar in that fact. because if anyone is going to be a star, they all are.

    oh yeah by the way did anybody see lebrons new sprite commercial. the whole finals type vibe. it seems like they have it prepared for him to win the finals lol. just kidding. but they are hyping it up for him too much, and it doesn’t stop there. he is also going to be the host at the espy awards. you go boy he making that money lol.

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  42. Anonymous

    this should be our starting 5
    pg:billups
    sg:hamilton
    sf:carmelo
    pf:sheed
    c:amare stodamire
    bench
    pg:hunter
    sg:murray
    sf:delfino
    pf:amir johnson
    c:maxiell

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