Currently viewing the tag: "trade"

Looks like Joe Dumars was making good use of his Blackberry today trying to work deals that involved Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince.

First the Tayshaun Prince deal.

Early Thursday the Pistons turned down a deal that would have sent Tayshaun Prince to Dallas for the expiring contract of injured Caron Butler and a late 2011 first-round draft pick.

So the Pistons swap expiring deals and get a first round draft pick out of it. Why didn’t Joe D pull the trigger? Tayshaun Prince is worth more to them as a sign and trade if he’s not in a Pistons uniform next season.

This is the one that hurts:

Rip HamiltonHamilton, who is owed $25 million for two more years after the current season, and who hasn’t played more than a few minutes since Laimbeer was wearing short shorts, would have been shipped to Cleveland for a future protected draft pick.

Sounds like the Pistons really don’t get a thing, but the fact is they are getting nothing from Rip and his contract at the moment no matter who you want to blame in this whole mess.

“We worked very hard through the trade deadline, but at the end of the day, there simply wasn’t a good deal for us to make,” Pistons president Joe Dumars wrote in an email to The Detroit News. If Hamilton would have been cut free, he would have become a free agent, free to sign with any team, most likely the Boston Celtics, who expressed interest in signing Hamilton.” via The Detroit News

So my initial reaction that I shared with twitter follower was:

Am I supposed to be pissed at Rip right now?….cause I think I am

Then the storm of tweets back at me followed and a good 95% of them were yes (that’s the G rated answer).

Pistons fans are upset and would have loved to see some of this mess resolved by seeing the whole Rip situation go away.

We can look at it from both sides.

I’m Rip, I don’t want to play for the worst team in the league and if I’m going to get bought out the money needs to be right.  So that’s Rip’s side right?

Right now we don’t know the final number he was offered, but he did have a choice.  He could have taken the money and played for a championship tomorrow with the Celtics who were drooling to pick him up.

So how do about 95% of the fans I have been in contact with feel?  Upset, betrayed and held hostage by a player who they once loved and respected.  In times when things are as bleak as they have been since the Pistons had horses on their jersey they wanted to see this thing settled in the any way possible.

Now for most it just looks like selfishness on Rip’s part.  Add in anger towards Kuester, and displeasure that this sale hasn’t gone through.

Pistons fans…this is limbo.

With 24 games left in the season the Pistons  have to sense some urgency, especially after Tuesday night’s 108-100 loss to the Rockets.  Detroit, who started the game right, led by eight points after the first quarter, but made it an uphill battle the rest of the way.

Key Points:

  • Can someone, anyone, tell me WHY Greg Monroe didn’t play a minute in the fourth quarter? Monore had a solid double-double with 12 points and 12 boards but he sat the entire fourth quarter when the Pistons were fighting to get a much needed win.
Greg Monroe 12 points and 12 boards

Photo/Getty Images editing Need4Sheed.com

  • I’m not one to question coaching, but this year my head has been spinning with doubt.  ( I thought MC made me nuts!)
  • When you have the other teams best scorers (Scola and Martin) struggling to do much of anything and you’re hoping to make a push for a playoff spot, this is one game that becomes a must win.
  • The Rockets led most of the second half, thanks to a 14-3 run at the start of the third.
  • Tayshaun with just one point on the night didn’t help Detroit, but as solid as he’s been all season long I’m OK with a bad game here and there.  Battier was on him all night long.
  • I was lucky enough to sit courtside at the end of the Pistons bench (thanks to someone who’s a bigger deal than I am) and seeing Rip sitting behind the bench next to Terrico White in street clothes is just sad.  The look on his face says it all…someone do something.
  • Will Bynum was again a Pistons spark-plug.  He led the team with 21 points on 9-14 shooting with 6 assists in just 22 minutes.
  • Austin Daye missed a couple of wide open threes late in the fourth that could have gotten the Pistons right back in the game. Daye scored 9 on the night with 3 steals and 5 boards.
  • Highlights via NBA.com

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

  • Houston got to the line and made them.  The Rockets were 26-for-28 from the line, while Detroit only made it there 15 times.
  • A five point and one board for Charlie Villanueva.
  • I talked to Jonas before the game…yes he is on Twitter! @JonasJerebko
  • Stuckey with 19, 2 assists and 3 boars but his +/- was -14. You can thank him for getting Detroit points in the paint. Stuck attacked the basket helping the Pistons outscored the Rockets 58-42 in the paint.
  • I was questioning the fourth quarter lineup four hours after the game.

Bynum:(On guard line-up in the fourth) “Nah, I don’t think it hurt defensively, they made shots, they made shots down the stretch when it counts. I don’t think it hurt defensively, if anything it helped.”

Kuester:(On small lineup in fourth quarter) “We felt we could attack, we could defend with that lineup still and it ended up that wasn’t the issue. The issue was we had gotten looks but we just couldn’t finish it. I had no problems with the adjustments and again we have to be smart going down into the stretch.”

  • Patrick Patterson with 20 points for Houston…come on!
  • The Pistons have got to win Wednesday night against the Pacers to gain some ground.
  • Trade deadline looming.
  • Every game counts starting yesterday.

I’m not sure if we as this “organizational decision” coming, but the the deactivation of Richard Hamilton was just a formality at this point in the standoff. Will we ever know the real story of how this drama escalated into what it is? I’m not sure, but what I do know is that I’m sure that both sides have to take some blame.

The Pistons will take a hit as will John Kuester, and Rip’s legacy in Detroit is now tarnished. Sad….really it it.

Rip Hamilton“I felt that way once I started sitting, because I really couldn’t do anything about it. When you really can’t do anything about it, you just stay in shape and keep working out, and things like that.

“I’m disappointed in it, but what can I do? I’m healthy, you know. That’s pretty much it. There’s not much I can say about it.”

Do you blame him?

Rip Hamilton“With all the speculation and the talk, you know what I’m saying, it’s one of them things where you wanted closure to the whole situation and for me, it’s different than everybody else’s situation. So, I just said, ‘Hey, you know what? Try to be the best professional’ and just come out and do what I got to do to stay fit and working out and things like that.”

“They sat me down and you hear all these different allegations on why they (sat) me down and things like that. It was crazy to me because all you want to do is play basketball, and I want to get out there and perform and that’s all I’ve been doing for as long as I’ve been in the NBA. It was just tough.”

On his benching: “I still ain’t spoke to nobody, you know what I’m saying? Nobody ain’t spoke to me about it. Just like when the whole situation went down, nobody didn’t tell me what was going on, you know? It’s kind of one of those things where you give your team for the last nine years your blood, sweat and tears and you never expect nothing like this would have happened, but it happened.”

The Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov: “I’m not happy with the way … this deal has gone until now,” Prokhorov said. “It has taken too long. It has been played out in public and it certainly has taken a toll on the players and I believe that it has cost us several games. I think management did a great job, but there comes a time when the price is simply too expensive. I’m instructing our team to walk away from the deal.” Via ESPN.com

The 15-26 Pistons are in Boston to take on the 31-9 Celtics.  Both teams will be going for their 4th straight win Wednesday night.  Though that’s not a big deal to the Celtics, the Pistons are looking for their first four-game winning streak since a five-game run Dec. 4-12, 2009.

Besides the Rip ‘DNP” drama that the Pistons can’t seem to get away from there is one question that still needs answering. Will the Kevin Garnett vs. Charlie Villanueva drama unfold or will it turn out to be a lot of nothing. My money is on at least something happening, since Charlie got away with an uncontested shove when he walked off the court in their last meeting. Garnett didn’t get to retaliate because he left with an injury and never returned. I wonder if Sports Betting sites are taking odds? If they have a bet on backpedaling or cheap shots put your money on KG.

Make us proud Charlie V.

If you’re unaware of KG’s antics please take a look at this YouTube video appropriately titled Kevin Garnett the Vanilla Ice of Big Men.

Looks like the Pistons again won’t have Ben Wallace, who’s still nurturing his ankle.

The Scouting Report via Pistons.com

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

If you’re looking to catch a game, the Pistons will be back home Saturday the 22nd.  Get tickets for as low as $6 to see Detroit take on Phoenix.

Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit . If you can’t catch the game on TV, follow it live over at NBA.com or on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.

Leave your thoughts in the comments or Chat Live with your fellow Pistons fans during the game.

The Pistons celebrated Martin Luther King day at home with their third straight victory. A feat that unfortunately the Pistons hadn’t accomplished since April of 2009. Despite 32 from Dirk Nowitzki, the Pistons, who shot a season high 57.5% for the game, took the matinee at the Palace 89-103.

Key Points:

  • Rodney Stuckey led Detroit with 20 points on 6-for-8 shooting, with 6 assists, a blocked shot and just one turnover, with a +14 rating. Raise your hands if you think Stuckey is flourishing at the two.
  • Another DNP for Rip Hamilton, who sits while the Pistons wait to see if the trade goes through. I wonder what Rip was thinking when he heard the Palace crowd chant “we want Rip”
  • Got to love Pistons fans…after the Rip chant. @Chris_Iott heard a fan chant “We want Troy Murphy.”
  • Good to see T-mac bounce right back after his slight injury against the Kings. Tracy with 8 points and 3 assists in 25 minutes

McGrady: “That foundation has finally been set. Guys know their role in the starting group and guys (know) their role coming off the bench, and you can see it’s just clicking right now. That’s something we’ve been searching for for quite some time and I think we finally found it.

  • OMG how is Brian Cardinal still getting a paycheck in the NBA. If you didn’t know he was drafted by the Pistons. I wonder if anyone out there has a Pistons/Cardinal jersey?
    After giving up a ridiculous 71 points at the half against the Kings Saturday night, the Pistons held the Mavs to 37.
  • Ben Wallace rested his ankle.
  • Highlights of the game via NBA.com

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

  • Dare I say that this game was surprisingly easy?
  • So is this starting five a winner?  When you win three in a row using it, especially the way the Pistons have you have to say yes.
  • Want more Stucktacular statistics on Rodney as the two guard? Stuckey is averaging 19.3 points on 17-for-28 shooting 60.7% since moving to the starting shooting guard position the last three games.
Rodney Stuckey

Photo/Getty Images editing Need4Sheed.com

  • Another solid game from Charlie V, who I have to say has really played well all season long, but it’s particularly nice to get his shooting off the bench.  Charlie V finished with 15 points in the victory.
  • Tay with 19 on 9-for-12 shooting with 5 assists and a blocked shot.  This really is the best Tay has played in quite some time. Tay recorded one block but really got robbed on a very clean block on Jason Terry that they called a foul.
  • Will Bynum contributing again.  He’s ready when called upon.
  • Reports surfaced out of Dallas over the weekend that the Mavs have targeted Tayshaun Prince, among a handful of NBA players, as a possible fill-in for Caron Butler.
  • He plays defense and he dunks, Greg Monroe with the steal and the drive.

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

  • Monroe solid, solid and solid.  The kid put up 16 with 9 boards and 4 steals!  He will be playing in the all star rookie game right?  With every game you see his confidence rise and his shots fall.
  • Ben Gordon put up 11, but still really doesn’t have his shot back yet.  When he does…you’ll know it.
  • Really….what have they been feeding Chris Wilcox?

Another game against Chicago with the same outcome. Pistons come out strong, play well, have the lead at half time (55-43) and collapse in the third quarter. The Bulls grabbed the lead midway through the third quarter and no matter how the Pistons tried, they fell short 82-95 losing to the Bulls for the 10th straight time.

Key Points:

  • I was surprised by all the Pistons based trade talk on the broadcast. They usually keep things like this hush hush, but I guess with the magnitude of it and the saturation by the media they had to put it front and center.
  • The Pistons were 11 for 40 (27.5 percent) from the field in the second half.  Scoring just 27 points after the break.
  • This is the Austin Daye we want to see. Another great night for Austin, who was 6-for-6 in the fist half with 14 points. I’m guessing his shot to save the game against the Sixers gave him a huge boost of confidence. This tomahawk dunk just made me smile.

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

Video courtesy of the NBA and The Detroit Pistons

  • What I was a little annoyed with was the fact that Austin’s hot hand sat for most of the second half.
  • Not sure what happened to Charlie Villanueva who gobbled up 6 boards before the first quarter was over but didn’t play much more after that. He finished with 7 boards, and 3 points in 16 minutes on the floor.
  • Ben Wallace fell the wrong way on the opening jump ball. He played the first two minutes and didn’t return. No updates as of yet.
  • With no Ben, Greg Monroe logged the most time on the floor for any Piston with 43 minutes. With each game this kid is improving. Monroe recorded his third consecutive double-double with 10 points, 11 boards, 2 assists and 2 steals.
  • Highlights of the Game via NBA.com

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

  • Ben Gordon just can’t put a game together against his former team. Another sub par night for Ben who went for just 5 points on 2-10 shooting.
  • Rip Hamilton didn’t fair much better, going 0-for-5 for 2 points. He may just have a New Jersey state of mind right now.
  • Kuester…where are the adjustments?

Kuester: “It was a tale of two halves. We did a nice job offensively in the first half. We also forced missed shots and got the rebounds. In the 3rd quarter, they went on a spurt and we just couldn’t control it. If we could have generated anything offensively, we would have been in this. We had a a good pace and took advantage of their mistakes but in the 2nd half we couldn’t get anything from that. Their team capitalized on our mistakes.”

  • Surprised by the MVP chats for Rose in Chicago, but his climb the latter dunk was ridiculous.
  • Stuckey continues to struggle against quality point guards no matter how hard he tries. Now he didn’t play horribly…in fact he shot 5-for-9 for 11 points with 4 assists in 19 minutes on the floor. He just couldn’t keep up with Rose (29), but really who can.
  • Tayshaun Prince led the Pistons with 15 points on 6-for-16 shooting in 33 minutes.
Tayshaun Prince

Photo/Getty Images editing Need4Sheed.com

  • Nine points with 2 assists, and 2 boards for McGrady who seems to be at the 30 minute mark playing time constantly now.
  • Maxiell and Bynum DNP’s.
  • Huge game from who I always thought was going to be the X-Factor of this team when they signed him. Chris Wilcox played solid with 13 points and 9 boards in 21 minutes. He may have been the reason Villanueva played limited minutes.
  • At this point it’s just a wait and see for this team as we wait for the trade and new ownership. Until both happen we are sort of in limbo until this team and organization has a plan.
  • Make sure you Follow Danny and myself on Twitter for any updates on the Pistons. Especially the Rip Hamilton trade.

Amidst the trade talk, the 12-24 Pistons are in Chicago to take on the 24-12 Bulls. The Bulls are on a season-high six-game home win streak and will try to win it’s 10th straight game against Detroit on Monday night.

And in case you were wondering, Rip was at the morning shoot around for the Pistons.

The Scouting Report via Pistons.com

Get the Flash Player to see this content.

Tip off is at 8:00 pm and will be broadcast on FS PLUS Detroit. If you can’t catch the game on TV, follow it live over at NBA.com or on the radio over at WWJ 950 AM.

Leave your thoughts in the comments or Chat Live with your fellow Pistons fans during the game.