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Looks like Toronto isn’t buying what Dumars is selling (ie trying to dump dead weight that nobody wants).

Looks like the Raptors didn’t like the offer at all.

Looks like Joe Dumars is really trying to right the ship as far as dead weight is concerned.  Reports have it that he’s in talks with the Raptors that could bring Rudy Gay to Detroit for Rodney Stuckey and Charlie Villanueva.

“The Pistons have offered the Raptors the expiring contracts of Rodney Stuckey and Charlie Villanueva in an attempt to acquire Gay, league sources told ESPN.com.”

If this actually pans out this could be like 15 Christmases come early.  Set aside the fact that Detroit lands Rudy Gay, who  in my opinion is a better option than Josh Smith, they get to dump Charlie Villanueva and Rodney Stuckey.

As little as I think of the contributions that Charlie V brought to the team I think a lot worse of Stuckey who clearly has personality issues and was forced upon Pistons fans as the next Chauncey Billups when he was no more than erratic 2 guard with a diva attitude.

ISanta Dumars know you’re saying to yourself why would Toronto want to give up Gay for the two stooges?  Because both Charlie V and Rodney Stuckey’s contracts are on their last year which means that they come off the cap for Toronto next season.  Also Rudy Gay has two years and $37 million left on his contract.

If Dumars gets this  done, he’ll get some faith back from many who doubt him.

Joe Dumars is talking to Josh Smith in hopes of landing the free agent.

Detroit Pistons general manager Joe Dumars met with Atlanta Hawks forward Josh Smith at 12:01 a.m. ET with a plan to make the free agent forward a substantial four-year offer, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Josh Smith is one of the top NBA free agents this summer. Atlanta has shown far more interest in working sign-and-trade arrangements for Smith than re-signing him to a long-term deal, league sources said.

Along with re-signing point guard Jose Calderon, Smith is the Pistons’ top priority on the market.

Dumars also will meet with forward Andre Iguodala on Monday in Los Angeles, but it’s doubtful the Pistons have the willingness to outbid Denver to sign him.” Via Yahoo Sports

It is also rumored that Detroit is in talks with Houston that would bring Jeremy Lin to Detroit in exchange for Jose Calderon in a sign and trade deal.

Since I can remember there has been talks to bring Smith to Detroit.  I’m not sure if Dumars has a man crush on him, or it was the willingness for Atlanta to let him go, but it seems as though every season we have a Josh Smith to the Pistons rumor.  It isn’t as if I’d be terribly upset to land the free agent, but he’s not as explosive as he used to be.  Had the Pistons landed him a few years ago I’d be ecstatic.

As far at the Jeremy Lin rumor, I don’t know what to think of it.

One thing is clear, Dumars is doing his best to make this team a different as he can to “salvage” things.

You may not have been stoke about Dumars passing on Trey Burke, but don’t count out Kentavious, an athletic wing that can knock down shots, something Detroit sorely need.

Complimenting his first round pick Dumars went with Tony Mitchell of North Texas State with the 37th pick. At 6-foot-8¾ and 236 pounds with a 38-inch vertical leap Mitchell was viewed as a lottery pick when the college season started, but he had a sophomore season that set him back.

“From a talent standpoint, this is somebody who could very well be the best athlete in the entire draft,” Pistons assistant general manager George David said. Via Pistons.com

Louisville vs South Florida by by Tim GirtonThe Pistons finished the night by drafting Peyton Siva a point guard of Louisville’s NCAA championship team, with the 56th pick. Siva, a three-year starter, averaged 10 points, 5.7 assists and 2.2 steals a game for the Cardinals in 2012-13.

This pick may say two things, Detroit is hell bent on making Brandon Knight their point guard and their probably not going to re-sign Jose Calderon.

You’ll get to see both of them soon during the Pistons Summer league play in Orlando that starts on July 7th. Siva will play point guard, Caldwell-Pope likely will be the shooting guard, though the Pistons expect second-year player Kim English to be in Orlando, as well. Khris Middleton will be the small forward with Mitchell at power forward and Andre Drummond at center.

Say what you will about the Joe’s picks this year, but he had ‘stones passing up Burke, and finishing the draft the way he did.  He knows his job is on the line so maybe he’s got more up his sleeve.

I’m sure you’re just like me and you’re shocked that Detroit Passed on Trey Burke and picked Kentavious Caldwell-Pope who wasn’t even a dot on most Pistons fans radar.

At this point, what is Joe Dumars thinking?

More to come ….

From Draft Express

Caldwell-Pope posted fairly high usage numbers, as his 17.6 possessions per-game ranks fifth in this group (third among high-major conference SGs), and is a reflection of just how heavily Georgia relied on his ability to put the ball in the basket last season.

His play-type usage doesn’t really stand out from the crowd, as he did a little bit of everything last season, but his 5.1 combined pick and roll and isolation possessions per-game does set him apart from McLemore and Oladipo, as he used more than twice as many possessions creating his own shot in the half court than any guard projected to be selected in the first round.

Caldwell-Pope’s biggest weapon when he looked to score was his pull-up jump shot. With nearly three-quarters of his shot attempts coming from the perimeter in the half court, roughly half of which were off the bounce, he scored a second ranked 1.118 points per-shot as a pull-up jump shooter, an impressive mark relative to his average 1.066 points per-shot in catch and shoot situations.

If Caldwell-Pope has a weakness on paper, it is his average finishing ability relative to his peer group. A 55.6% shooter in transition and 53.7% shooter at the rim in half court situations, he hovers right around the mean in both categories. Turning the ball over on a sample second ranked 10.6% of his possessions, Caldwell-Pope’s low turnover rate certainly helped compensate for his issues around the rim last season.

It’s time (for me anyway) to start thinking about the Pistons again.  I hate to say it but I’m extremely underwhelmed by this draft class.  It’s not as if someone Detroit drafts at 8 will help this team, but I just don’t see a blatant superstar in the bunch regardless of the draft position.

Would I be stoked if Detroit had the #1 pick this season…no.  Why? Because as a Pistons fan I’d have this thought in my head, “It figures Detroit would get the #1 pick this year.”

It’s the cynic in me, but that’s just the way I think.

I’m hoping for the best as I’m sure most NBA fans are when it’s time for their team to step up to the podium, but I’m not counting on much this season.I will however be at the Pistons Draft party tonight at the Palace to watch the pick live and listen to what Dumars and they new Piston have to say.  I’ll make sure I tweet out the goodies, so follow me @Need4Sheed_com if you don’t already.

Who’s on your wish list?

Tom Gores was in town for the last #Pistons home game of the season, but his agenda isn’t just about enjoying his team’s last game. With the past two season showing little or no improvement Gores made it clear that thing will happen.

The rumors have been circulating for weeks that Lawrence Frank’s job is on the line. Gores had lofty playoff aspirations and Frank led the team to another Draft Lottery pick.

Tom Gores toon“Lawrence is a tremendous guy, I’ve gotten to know him a little bit the last couple years and he’s a tremendous guy. But I have to worry about this franchise and what is the best thing to do.” Via Mlive

Dumars is also on the hot seat.

“I think both of them, including ownership, has to be accountable for the year. We have to be accountable for the results of this year.

I expected to be in the playoffs. So I’m disappointed by that. When I said that last year, I meant it. I’m very excited about what we have going. We have a lot of room financially. In basketball operations, we’ve set ourselves up. So I’m very excited about the future. But I’m not content about how we performed this year.”

We’ll know soon what the direction of this Pistons team will be but it seems quite obvious at this point.  I’m not sure many Pistons fans would rally behind Lawrence Frank, but I know that many want to give Joe Dumars another go at it considering his hands have been tied for a while.

I myself am a big Dumars slappy, and think he’s got to take a ton of blame but I’m not all that sure that this ownership team can do much better. Their not sports guys, they are money guys.

What do you think?

Who Needs to Go?

  • Both (58%, 175 Votes)
  • Lawrence Frank (25%, 75 Votes)
  • Joe Dumars (11%, 33 Votes)
  • Clean House and Make Trades (5%, 15 Votes)
  • Neither (1%, 2 Votes)

Total Voters: 300

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The #Pistons lost to the Pacers Saturday night at the Palace of Auburn Hills 88-77.  I could go into my normal recap style of why, how and who did what, but I just feel like venting frustrations a little.

As a fan who goes to her fair share of games for more than 20 years, it’s getting pretty depressing at The Palace of Auburn Hills.  It’s rough heading out to a mid-week game against the Cavaliers.  I had my pick of parking spaces, I didn’t wait in line at any time for a beverage.  Heck I never even had to wait in line to use the restroom. But most of all, I didn’t get threatened by a rabid Cavs fan who infiltrated our home court.

Those things may sound petty, but it just goes to show you the state of our beloved team.  It’s not like this team hasn’t gone though tough times.  Most of us remember the “Teal Years” and some of us even remember the pre-Isiah days.  But there is something a bit different about what’s going on and how it unfolded the past few seasons.

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Sure we miss Chauncey, and it’s nice to see Rasheed back screaming “Ball Don’t Lie” for the Knicks, but it was time to move on from a team that just couldn’t win together anymore.  The thing that bothers me is the way it happened was almost spirit crushing from a fans perspective.  As we watched the team go from contenders to pretenders in a little more than a season, I don’t think we actually thought it would get as bad as it did.

We had a first time NBA coach who really was in over his head.  We had another coach that had a horrible and public fight with a star player that led to a mutiny. We had a beloved owner pass away that left an unbelievable legacy and the team in limbo until his widow could sell the team.

We also have Bandwagon fans, you know it and I know it.  If you’re reading this, you’re probably not one of them, but the Piston have the biggest “Bandwagon Cats” (as Sheed would say) as fans as any team in Michigan.  I’m almost embarrassed by it.  I hate everything about the Cleveland Cavaliers, the building they play in and their fans, but kudos to them for packing The Q on a week day game against the Pistons.

Are you depressed yet?

I could go and on and on.

I think what’s bothering me most of all lately is the fact that I think this team is on the cusp.  I think they should be winning more than they are.  I’m so over the company line of why they  aren’t winning, they’re tired, they’re on long road trip…blah blah blah.  They have young talent that just needs the right direction. They need to learn how to win and they need something or someone to help them do that.

Andre Drummond Pistons-vs-SunsWe all think that Andre Drummond should play more, he’s even has heard the rumblings. It doesn’t look like this team is playoff bound so why not see what kind of players we have and what we need to do to get to the next level? Sure they sent Middletion and English to the D-League to get playing time and we know that Kravtsov is a project but that’s not everything.

Why is Jerebko the new Charlie V? What’s going on with Greg Monroe’s regression? Why play Maggette so much when he’s really just a one and done? Can the Pistons ever get anything for Austin Day?  Will Dumars ever make a move? When will Frank show us that he’s the guy for the job?

Has the holiday depression set in yet?

I know it’s tough to keep supporting a team when they’re not winning, but it’s what real fans do. Sure there isn’t the fire (literally they don’t have the pre-game fire anymore)  there once was at the Palace, but it’s still great heading out to the Palace to support your team, not just the Bel Biv Devoe half time show. You really should take advantage of going to a game if you haven’t in a while, they’re begging for people in the seats and are practically giving tickets away.  When you can go to a Pistons game for less than going to a movie you know times are really tough.

Heck if you head out to the game and see me we can commiserate together.

So don’t let the Pistons get you down this holiday season, just enjoy them for what they are.  But make sure you ask Santa to give them a hand.

Santa Dumars

With the 0-7 #Pistons start to the season, it’s clear that something has to change. It made it that much more obvious Saturday night when The Rockets went on a 22-1 run to bury Detroit in the 96-82 loss. Let’s put aside the fact that they got dealt a blow when they were sent on a six game West road trip after their hope opener. Sure it was tough, but those are the things that any NBA team must overcome.

Now it’s time to make a change.

I’m not sure if coach Frank is on the hot seat just yet, but he’s really got to be thinking about this very similar situation he was in when he was coaching The Nets. Frank’s team had the worst start to an NBA season losing 17 straight before being fired. That Nets team was injury plagued, but effort and energy was clearly missing as the losses kept mounting.

So what does Frank have to do? He needs to change things, and change them fast.

Lets start with the fact that this team has no real shooter. Stuckey is far from a shooter, he wants to be D-Wade. Tayshaun can be when he’s hot, which is about one in 10 games if the Pistons are lucky. Austin Day… I’ll let you finish that one. So who does that leave? Charlie Villanueva, yes that’s who it leaves. Clearly there is a problem.

They have Jason Maxiell starting at power forward. Bless him for playing his heart out, but he would never be a starter on any other team, let alone at PF. Don’t get me wrong, I like Maxiell, but I like him coming off the bench and bringing defense and energy.

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Brandon Knight is a great player, but he’s not qualified (yet) to lead a struggling team like this one.

We can go on and on, and we do as Pistons fans.

No matter what Tom Gores goal is for the team, he’s got to see that they’re not likely to be making playoffs. There should only be one goal, take one game at at time and WIN one. At this point with the start that they have had and the clear gaps the rotation and lineup you would think it was clear to Frank, and Dumars for that matter that things have to change.

  • Start Andre Drummond. If they aren’t competing for a championship, play Monroe and Drummond at their rightful positions and let them learn together. We would rather see the two grow together for a chance for something better in seasons to come.
  • This isn’t 2004, and Tayshaun isn’t blocking a Reggie Miller layup in the ECF. He’s not a starter anymore, and this team isn’t vying for championships. Let him anchor the bench and give the starting spot to Jerebko or Singler for that matter.
  • Give English more time, he may just be the shooter they are looking for.
  • Let’s see what Kravtsov can do.
  • Someone have a heart to heart and tell Rodney Stuckey that in order for you to act like a star you have to play like one.

So many things to do and so little time to do them before things get more out of hand. I actually think Lawrence Frank is a good coach, but this downward spiral isn’t making any of us smile. Dumars has to do some damage control and figure out which way this team is going to head.  Are they going to try to keep winning with a lineup and roster that seems to be outmatched every night or is he going to force a change?  I know Dumars is one of those GM’s that lets the coach do his job, but at this point both of them need to work with each other to get off the hot seat.

I thought this was going to be a fun season to watch with the new talent and a rookie infused team, but it’s been nothing but migraines.