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The 0-1 #Pistons open up their six game Western Road trip in Phoenix to take on the 0-1 Suns.  This isn’t the Suns you’re used to seeing, Phoenix no longer has Steve Nash or Grant Hill and their new roster looks like it needs time to learn how to play together.

  • The good: Detroit should be able to get a win against a Phoenix team who’s best player is arguably  Louis Scola.
  • The bad: The Pistons have lost four straight at Phoenix, including a 109-101 defeat March 16, 2012.
  • The unknown: Can the Pistons bounce back from the abysmal fourth quarter defensive showing against Houston? Are we going to see more of Andre the Giant?

Tip off is at 10:00 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports . If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 the Ticket.

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So we’ve got some down time between now and the end of Summer when it comes to Pistons basketball.  What better to do than discuss who would be on your 12 man roster of All Time Detroit Pistons.  Some of the readers here are only old enough to know the young(er) guys like Rodney Stuckey, Tayshaun Prince, or Grant Hill, while some of the old(er) readers remember Dave Bing, Bob Lanier and even Dave DeBusschere.

Let’s set some ground rules:

  1. 2 point guards, 2 shooting guards, 1 combo guard/forward, 2 small forwards, and 5 power forward/center types.  Although the Miami Heat showed they can win without a true big man, there are enough good Pistons big men from the past that could get the job done.
  2. Pick a Coach, and coaching staff.  Your coaching staff can be a complete staff from a particular coach, if you’re not aware of the individuals who have coached over the years.
  3. Pick a uniform era (Teal era, Bad Boys blue and white, old blue and white with thunderbolt, etc)
  4. Pick an arena (likely all will pick The Palace, since The Silverdome was awful)

Ok, with all of that said, here is my team and an explanation as to why for each:

  1. Isiah Thomas (Starting PG): Hall of Famer.  Fiery leader who left it all out on the floor each night.
  2. Chauncey Billups (PG): Quiet leader who let his game do the talking.  Value was truly unknown to this team until his was traded.
  3. Joe Dumars (Starting SG): More of a combo guard than anything, because of his ball handling skills.  There is not a better guard tandem to have ever played this game than the backcourt of Thomas and Dumars.  Plus, he was my favorite player growing up.
  4. Vinnie Johnson (SG): Instant offense off the bench – may not be more talented than Richard Hamilton, but if I need a guy off the bench I want the Microwave.  (Note: my omission of Rip Hamilton is not meant to be a slight against him)
  5. Dave Bing (Combo SG/PG): Hall of Famer.  Bing was a player who was way ahead of his time.  Averaged 22 points a night in an era where the 3 point shot wasn’t available.
  6. Adrian Dantley (Starting SF): A lot of people will say that Mark Aguirre put the team over the top, because Dantley was only good at one end of the floor (offense).  Dantley made his impression on me as a youth with his scoring ability and high socks which made it look like he was faster than he actually is.
  7. Tayshaun Prince (SF): “The Block” is what should put him on every All Time Pistons team for the rest of his life.  That block was what helped propel the Pistons into the 2004 Finals for their franchise’s 3rd NBA Title.
  8. Dennis Rodman (Starting PF): “The Worm” is there to get under your skin.  A lock down defender against guys twice his size and weight.  Awful on offense, but with all the shots being hoisted up by my backcourt, I need solid rebounding down low.
  9. Ben Wallace (Starting C): Having Big Ben start alongside Rodman leaves me short up front, but who scores on these guys when both are in their prime?  This front court could average 24 rebounds a night.
  10. Bob Lanier (Backup PF/C): Averaged 23 and 12 a night for the majority of his career.  Left handed big men always get bonus points with me.
  11. Rasheed Wallace (Backup PF/C): Is the best stretch Power Forward from an era when the stretch power forward became a fad.  Known for his constant trash talking, Rasheed has been called the best teammate that his teammates ever had.
  12. Rick Mahorn (PF/C – 12th man/head benchmob cheerleader): Mahorn was a load in the paint.  Would smile in your face if he knew you didn’t like it.
  13. Chuck Daly (Head Coach): The implementer of the “Jordan Rules” would relish the chance to design defenses to guard some of today’s young “me first” basketball players.
  14. 1989-1990 Coaching Staff: Lead by future Toronto Head Coach Brendan Malone.
  15. The Palace of Auburn Hills (Arena): The Palace still looks new to me.  In an era where things have to be “bigger and better”, the Palace has been able to thrive for over 20 years now.  Sure, there have been several facelifts and modifications.  But like with fine wine, the Palace seems to get better with age.
  16. Bad Boys era blue and white Pistons uniforms:  Something about these unis signified toughness for me.  If it wasn’t the plain block lettering with the big red and white stripes, it was the plain blue shorts with the stripes around your waist and down your thighs (like boxing trunks).  Plain and simple, until they were screwed up by the teal era.

Detroit Bad Boys

Honorable mention: Grant Hill, Bill Laimbeer, Richard Hamilton, James Edwards, and John Salley.  Larry Brown and Flip Saunders.

I couldn’t nominate Grant Hill to be a starter, because although he was one of the best players to ever wear the Pistons red blue and white, he wanted to get out of Detroit.  He wanted to escape the teal era.  I couldn’t do Rip either – too many guys who were the epitome of Pistons basketball for me growing up as a child of the late 80s and early 90s.  These are guys who I emulated on the basketball court myself.  Buddha and Salley were tough casualties, but I could only keep 12.  Same with Laimbeer.

So let’s hear it Pistons fans, who is your All Time team?  I can admit I wasn’t around to see Bob Lanier or Dave Bing play, but their stats don’t lie.  It would be fun watching the combination of Ben and Rasheed Wallace match up against the big men from the Bad Boys era, like Laimbeer and Salley had to.

 

The Pistons put themselves in the position to take a game in Phoenix, but eerily like their game in Utah, Detroit couldn’t hold things together in the final minutes of the ball game.  With about four minutes to go in the ball game  Jared Dudley made a layup to put the Suns up 97-95 and they never looked back.

The final score 101-109.

Key Points:

  • It was tied at 95 with four minutes left, but the Suns outscored the Pistons 14-6 down the stretch.
  • Yes, that score in the box is correct, Ben Wallace with 10 points on 5-for-5 shooting.

Ben Wallace: “I mean coming down the stretch they made plays. They made enough plays to win the game and we didn’t. We were in the game and had a chance to win it but that’s all you can ask; is for us to fight and give ourselves a chance. Give Phoenix credit, they made plays when they counted the most.”

  • The Pistons clearly have a rough time on the road.  Detroit is now 3-17 away from the Palace.
  • Brandon Knight with 17 points, 10 of them in the first quarter, seems to be working well alongside Rodney. Brandon added 6 assists and a blocked shot in 37 minutes on the floor for Detroit.
  • Rodney Stuckey continues to lead this team in scoring, putting up 23 points on 7-for-13 shooting with 8 assists, 3 boards and a steal in 37 minutes on the floor. Is Stuckey’s bandwagon getting full?
Rodney Stuckey Pistons vs. The Suns

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  • The Suns had to rest Nash and Hill the game before they played Detroit.  Hill put up 14, while Nash had five with a ridiculous 17 assists.
  • The Suns bench scored 36, while Detroit’s put up 29.
  • Maxiell, who scored 12 with four boards in 25 minutes in the ball game is usually good for one of these highlights every game this season.

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  • Ben Gordon took a 3 shots and scored 6 points.  It’s obvious that whatever role Ben Gordon accepted when he came to this team clearly hasn’t panned out.  His bank account however is just fine with it.
  • You have to keep a bad rebounding Suns team off the glass and the Pistons didn’t do that. The Suns out rebounded Detroit 40-32.
  • DNP = Daye, Villanueva, Bynum, and Russell.

Highlights via NBA.com

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  • Not cool – Phoenix outscored the Pistons 22-12 in second-chance points.
  • Greg Monroe with just 8 points 9 boards, and 2 blocked shots with 5 turnovers on the night.
  • Six Pistons in double figures.
  • Next up the Clippers Sunday in LA.

The 16-27 #Pistons are in Phoenix to take on the 21-22 Suns Friday night. The Suns, who are looking to win their third straight will have Steve Nash and Grant Hill in the lineup. Detroit is looking add another victory on their current West coast trip.

    • The good: The Pistons have been playing together better as each game goes by.
    • The bad: The Suns have won eight of their last 11 games at home. This Picture of Grant Hill and Steve Nash from the Suns website. If my face looked like that in a picture I’d be saying something if I were Grant.

  • Who to watch:The very hot Rodney Stuckey.
  • The unknown: Not unknown to me, but I forgot that Michael Redd is on the Suns. He’s always been tough on the Pistons.

Tip off is at 10:00 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports. If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.

Ben Wallace CollegeBen Wallace, the kid from rural Alabama,  went from being  roadside barber to make money, to counting his NBA defensive player of the year awards and polishing his Championship ring.

Before Wallace returned to Detroit, plenty of Pistons fans had the debate on whether his Jersey would be up in the Palace rafters one day.   I was always hoping that one day it would, but thought it would be a long time coming.  He did leave to play for the enemy and the organization was quick to hand his number over to Rodney Stuckey and transform the new number three into the face of the franchise.

Now that he’s returned….to glory, for less than a price of a Bean Burrito, I have no doubt that one day the #3 will be hanging in the rafters at the Palace.

Here is a little video special on the man before the Fro, well and a little after, just check out the teal and maroon.

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Video Courtesy of The Detroit Pistons and FSD

The Pistons vs. The Spurs

The 11-22 Pistons are in San Antonio tonight on the second game of a back to back to take on the 20-12 Spurs.

Just to put things into perspective, Detroit has not had a losing streak this bad since dropping 13 straight to conclude the 1993-94 season and finish 20-62. And for those of you not in the know….they went straight to the Draft lottery and chose Grant Hill.

Detroit has only won three games this season on the road and The Spurs have won six of their last seven at home.

The Scouting Report via Pistons.com

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At least we get a chance to see Antonio McDyess, right?

Cheer up Pistons fans… Jonas Jerebko the Steal of the NBA Draft?

Not to mention the epic YouTube tribute to him.

Tip is at 8:30 pm EST and will be televised on Fox Sports Detroit. For the radio broadcast tune in to 97.1 The Ticket or follow the action over at NBA.com .

NEED4SHEED GAME CHAT

Sounds like somebody’s got a case of the Mondays, doesn’t it?

It usually doesn’t turn out well for the Pistons or their fans on Monday mornings when Detroit plays on Sunday. Detroit added to their Sunday loss total last night after their 107-97 loss to the Suns at The Palace, despite great play by Allen Iverson and Rip Hamilton, who have been the talk of the team since Rip took on his new role as sixth man.

Key Points:

  • Steve Nash had more assists (21) than the Detroit Pistons had as a team (19).
  • Seems as though plenty of Pistons fans were vocal at the Palace last night.  They made sure they let Amare know they wanted to see him in a Pistons uniform.
  • Amare on possibly playing in Detroit: “It would be phenomenal. I think the fans here have been probably the top fans in the world since I’ve been in the NBA. They’re always cheering their team on and every time we come here, their always loud and rowdy, so it would be fun to play here.” Via MLive
  • Don Shane talks to Amare (Video)
  • This team has become a turnover machine.  Remember when Chauncey was in charge?  The Pistons had 14 turnovers last night, with most leading to easy Phoenix buckets.
  • Kwame Brown started the game to take some heat off Rasheed by guarding Shaq.  He even had a sweet putback dunk in the opening minute. Eight boards and 4 points in 18 minutes isn’t bad but the 3 turnovers killed his stat line.
  • AI scored 25 in 41 minutes on the floor going 8-for-22.  That’s the AI of old, he scores a ton but usually needs a lot of shots to do it in. I’m fine with it as long as the Pistons win. He added 7 assists, 4 steals and 3 boards. And a pretty sweet floater over Shaq.

Allen Iverson

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  • Rodney Stuckey seems out of place since Rip started to heat up. He played 29 minutes and scored 8 with an assist, 3 boards and a blocked shot.
  • This is NOT a typo……The Suns scored 66 points in the Paint! I will say no more. Oh I lied, one more thing… 31 fast break points!!
  • NBA.com Highlights of the Game.
  • Now I thought it was just me who noticed the bias during the ESPN broadcast, but it seems I’m not the only one who took note of it. This little snippet from the ESPN crew took shots at the Pistons players, the fans (spoiled), the city and then had the nerve throw the Lions in there. Kick a city when they’re down why don’t you?

  • Oh and every shot the Pistons missed was wayyyyyyyyyy off, as explained to us by the ESPN crew after every Piston miss.
  • Double-double for Rasheed Wallace with 16 points and 10 boards, who added 4 steals and a blocked shot.  He’s looking good lately, but how long he will be able to keep this up with the time he’s getting on court is another thing.
  • Antonio McDyess is the hardest working Piston period. Double digit rebounds night in and night out. Ice 4 Dyess is truly an understatement.
  • This is one of the most ridiculous assists I have seen in a long time.  Allen Iverson cross court bounce pass through the legs of Grant Hill to Rip for the layup.
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