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Detroit was up three points on the final possession of the game Friday night at the Palace., and what followed was a another heart-breaker in Detroit.  A Joe Johnson (crazy) three with a little over one second left on the clock sent the game to overtime and that as they say was history.  The final score 107-101.

Key Points:

  • You could almost see the ending coming after Detroit had controlled almost the entire game.
  • How do you let Joe Johnson make that three?  I thought for sure that L Frank would have them foul to take two.  Was I the only one thinking that?
  • Brandon Knight: “As a team, we were a little bit demoralized when he hit that shot, but that’s something we can’t do in the future. We’ve got to keep plugging, keep playing. We controlled most of the game. So we’ve got to keep playing, no matter if it’s overtime or it’s not.”
  • Johnson who scored just 2 first half points finished with 30.
  • You can see this team has the ability to win, they just need to learn how to do it.  And that’s not easy.
  • Frustrating to see Detroit pretty much fold as soon as overtime started.  The Hawks raced out to a lead and left their foot on the gas until the buzzer.  Atlanta’s biggest lead (11) came in overtime.
  • Jason Maxiell with the best game of the season for him really was a surprise.  Not that we don’t know he could do it, but when it happens it always seem to be just at the right time.   Jason with 19 points on 8-for-14 shooting with 8 boards, and a blocked shot.
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  • Just (I know that’s still a lot) 10 turnovers for Detroit and ZERO form Brandon Knight.
  • Speaking of night, he had a great game putting up 20 points with 8 assists and some contested and much needed three’s in overtime.
  • Hawks Pistons bench outscored the Hawks bench 43 to 18.
  • Most Pistons fans didn’t seem to care or notice T-Mac was in the game for the other team, though Matt Dery did hear some booing.
  • Stuckey with 14 points on just 4-for-13 shooting did his best to get to the line for Detroit.  Rodney added 5 assists a steal and 2 turnovers.
  • I hate to say it but 80′s night sure brought me back.  I sure wish that the Pistons would have pulled this one out to make things that much better.
  • You have to think that Austin Daye has gotten his confidence back, he calmly took a couple of late shots late in the game.  Last week he would have either been on the bench or passed up the shot.  Daye with 12 points on 4-for-11 shooting, with 3 boards, and assist and a blocked shot.
  • Moose with yet another solid night. Add this one to his double-double tally.  Greg with 22 points, 11 boards and 2 steals on the night.  I wonder if Greg’s jersey is the highest selling at The Palace?  If it isn’t, it should be.
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  • It’s not going to get much better, have you looked at the schedule and seen how many game they are playing. More tonight in Philadelphia.

The 4-15 Pistons are back home for 80′s night to host the 13-6 Atlanta Hawks at the Palace of Auburn Hills. T-Mac and Jerry Stackhouse, two former Pistons will be in the house to play a game of basketball, but most importantly to see Morris Day during his halftime show. Not to mention get their copy of this dreamy Jonas Jerebko Poster.

Jonas Jerebko 80's Poster

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  • The good: This team showed that they could compete with any team on any given night.
  • The bad: That doesn’t mean they have learned how to win against any team on any given night.  No Bynum, Gordon, Charlie V and T Prince is a game time decision for family reasons.  The Pistons are the only team yet to reach 100 points in a game.
  • Who to watch: T-Mac, Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Knight, Monroe and hopefully Daye again.
  • The unknown: Will this the team that showed up Wednesday night at the Palace against Miami show tonight.

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Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports. If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 the Ticket.

Richard Hamilton was back in the Pistons lineup after missing the last game with a death in the family.  He was no help as the Pistons lost to the 5th seeded Atlanta Hawks 104-96 in Atlanta.

Coach Kuester once again utilized the 10 man rotation that helped pull out the win Friday night over the Knicks in Detroit, this time they came up short in crunch time.  The game was tight until the final minutes as Jamal Crawford and Josh Smith nailed key free throws to close out the game for the playoff bound Hawks.

On a bright note, Rodney Stuckey finished with a game high 22 points and tied for a game high 8 assists off the bench for the Pistons.  Super rookie Rodney White Greg Monroe finished with another double-double (17 and 10) while matched up against the more athletic Josh Smith.

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  • 3 Pistons played 30+ minutes, 7 others played 11-27 minutes.  Rodney Stuckey played 31 minutes off the bench
  • Detroit fought back from a 14 point deficit to get it to within 2 points after 1 minutes passed in the 4th quarter
  • Chris Wilcox showed out yet again with 18 efficient points off the bench for the Pistons
  • Detroit’s backcourt defense held perennial 6th man of the year candidate Jamal Crawford to 9 points in 30 minutes
  • All Star Center Al Horford finished with a double-double of his own – 18 and 10
  • Josh Smith flashed the athleticism and defense that Pistons fans have long wanted to see in the Pistons red, blue and white.  Smith has been a part of trade rumors started by Pistons fans, with Detroit being an ideal landing spot for the well paid Smith after the Hawks overpaid Joe Johnson this past off season.
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  • With Rip Hamilton back in the fold, Will Bynum was the odd man out today.  Jason Maxiell also didn’t see time on the floor
  • My least favorite player of all time had a game best +11.  Kirk Hinrich, acquired by the Hawks at the trade deadline for Jordan Crawford and some scraps from the Wizards, scored 15 points to go with 6 assists and 4 rebounds
  • After a game like today, I don’t think you’ll catch Natalie or I calling in to the Call Sam Studios to talk to Maaaaaahteen.  Tough loss for the good guys
  • Former Team Boney favorite Damien Wilkins is playing scrap minutes for the Hawks
  • Detroit fell behind early, and played the Hawks about even the rest of the game until the end when Detroit was trying to stop the clock
  • In NCAA news – Michigan State choked their way out of the NCAA Tournament, Oakland U played Texas tough while Michigan made it through to the 2nd round and fell to Duke 73-71

Detroit played well enough down the stretch to claw their way back into the game, but it’s tough to fully overcome such a deficit like 14, especially against a playoff bound team on their home floor.  This Pistons starting lineup seems to work best, it’s just a shame that Monroe is really the only young player on the roster that is capable of starting at this point.  Austin Daye has been disappointing and inconsistent, Rodney Stuckey has been wildly inconsistent when given starters minutes, and DaJuan Summers has been invisible.

Detroit now heads home to face off against Rony Seikaly’s former team, the Miami Heat.  Detroit does not match up well with the Heat in the backcourt but, it’ll be interesting to see how a matured Greg Monroe holds his own against the Miami Heat starting power forward.

The 25-44 Pistons are in Atlanta for a 2 pm matinee against the 39-30 Hawks Sunday afternoon. The Hawks currently sit at the 5th playoff spot in the east, but with their play of late really need to start winning again to assure that they make their fourth consecutive playoff appearance.

Since Feb. 8 Atlanta has lost 12 of 18 while averaging 89.3 points, a league low over that span.

  • The good: The Pistons are coming off two impressive wins, and the Hawks have lost 6 of their last 8 game, although that usually works in the wrong way for Detroit..
  • The bad: Can Detroit get up for an early Sunday game?
  • The unknown: The juggling lineups continue.

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Tip off is at 2:00 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit. If you can’t catch the game on TV, follow it live over at or on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.

To me, booing your favorite team is something you should never do.  Especially when that team has given you more good reasons than bad to cheer for them.  Let’s face it folks, the Atlanta Hawks are one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference who give the Pistons matchup problems at 4 out of 5 positions on the floor.  Losing a lead is unacceptable but even worse is sapping all of the home court advantage out of the arena by booing is even worse.

Will Bynum was the player of the night for the Pistons with his 7 assists and 8 points in 21 minutes off the bench.  Bynum put together a complete “point guard” effort by also contributing 3 steals.  Let’s look at the lowlights, shan’t we?:

  • The play of Josh Smith, Mike Bibby and Joe Johnson were the reason the Hawks were able to come back and win the game.  All 3 players had a +/- of +25 or better.  All 3 were able to take advantage of mismatches on the floor.
  • I thought Ben Wallace was an offensive black hole in the paint for the Pistons, until I saw Jason Collins.  Ben Wallace was 1 of 2 players on the Pistons to turn out a positive +/-
  • 2 Pistons players played 30 minutes or more – out of 11 players.  I’m happy the team has such depth available use, I’m not happy that Coach Kuester doesn’t know how to utilize them properly.
  • 11,844 people attended the game – I feel sorry for those that spent their hard earned money to watch that game.
  • 27, 24, 17, 11.  Those were the point totals for each of the quarters last night.  28 total 2nd half points for the Pistons, after scoring 27 in the 1st quarter.
  • 1 reason for the failure?  14 assists at halftime, and only 6 in the 2nd half.  The ball has to move.
  • Pistons outrebounded 39-26.
  • This win was Atlanta’s 8th out of their last 10 games – and this loss gave the Pistons losses in back to back home games.
  • Richard Hamilton sat out the game due to a sore groin.

The Pistons have 1 more home game this week, and it comes Wednesday against one of the hottest teams in the Eastern Conference, the Indiana Pacers.  The Pacers have been on a tear ever since they fired Jim O’Brien, so it will not be an easy game the Pistons.

The 20-33 Pistons will host the 33-20 Atlanta Hawks for a Valentines game at the Palace of Auburn Hills.

Atlanta has won seven of its last nine games away from home, but Detroit always plays the Hawks tough. In their last meeting in Detroit, Atlanta lost 103-80.

  • The good: Still waiting for any Tom Gores news.
  • The bad: The Pistons have now dropped three straight home games and five of their last six.
  • The unknown: Will Rip Hamilton play…ever?

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Great time to score points with your Valentine.  Great lower level seats for as low as $18.

Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit. If you can’t catch the game on TV, follow it live over at or on the radio over at 97.1 the Ticket.

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The Pistons washed away whatever was left of the awful loss to Toronto by taking down the Atlanta Hawks at the Palace 80-103.

Key Points:

  • Lineup Shakeup! Greg Monroe in the starting lineup alongside Ben Wallace in the front court. The Rookie didn’t disappoint starting the game off solid on defense. Monroe played 20 minutes grabbing 7 boards with a blocked shot and 5 points. I like it.

Greg Monroe: On starting “We got the win, that’s all that matters.”

  • Another rare combination, Charlie V and Chris Wilcox teaming up off the bench, they too didn’t disappoint.
  • Rip Hamilton led the Pistons with 24 tearing it up with 20 of his points in the first half.
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  • Looks like Will Bynum and Jason Maxiell are out of the lineup again.
  • Rip may have scored two dozen, but Charlie Villanueva shined like a star off the bench. Defense, offense, rebounds, hustle…he did it all. Charlie finished with 23 points in 28 minutes with 11 boards, 3 steals and a blocked shot. To top things off he hit a three at the buzzer to top off the win for Detroit. I challenge you to find another game that Charlie played better while in a Pistons uniform.

Charlie Villanueva: “I think we’re a lot better than our record shows, but I desperately wanted to get a win especially after how we played in that Toronto game. I think we did a good job and responded well. I’d say this is what Pistons basketball is all about. We did a little bit of everything, we passed the ball, we rebounded well, we defended and we scored. The way we played today is what I envisioned us to be.”

  • Shades of things to remember…the Tayshaun Prince chase down block.

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  • Get this, five Pistons with huge +/- stat lines and they Stuckey +20, Villanueva +29, T-Mac +23, Gordon +25, and Wilcox +20. Yes that’s Chris to you.
  • The Pistons had their third quarter collapse early when the Hawks went on a 10-0 run to almost erase the Pistons half time lead, but Q took a time out and the team never looked back. Detroit led from start to finish.
  • Ben Wallace turned an ankle early in the third quarter and didn’t return.
  • Rebound war won 43-31
  • Great ball movement and with it 26 assists on the night for Detroit.
  • The big snow storm made for one of the smallest Pistons crowds I have ever seen. Couldn’t have been more than 4 thousand people in the building.
  • Stuckey showing off his point guard skills again with 10 assists adding 16 points, 3 boards and 2 steals.
  • Was that T-Mac I saw adding gasoline to the Palace floor in the fourth quarter and lighting the match to whatever chances the Hawks had to take the game. Four fourth quarter three’s from McGrady to quickly pad to Detroit lead late in the game. I like to see him do well and be out there in crunch time. I could be wrong, but I don’t remember him being out on the floor to finish a game for the Pistons yet. Tracy finished with 16 in 25 minutes with 6 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block.
Tracey McGrady 4 fourth quarter 3's

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  • Chris Wilcox the X-Factor.
  • Ben Gordon…not. Ben was 1-6 for 2 points with 3 assists and a board.
  • Premature firing of the confetti streamers on the court… the crew had to clean them up and add seconds on the clock to put the game officially in the book.
  • Can I just bask in the glow of this victory for now?

0 and 5.  Zero and Five.  Winless.  Awful.  Outcoached.  Outplayed.

Rodney Stuckey

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Whatever the adjective, this team went from bad to worse in a stretch of 4 games.  Finger pointing from the players and coaches on “who is doing what wrong and why” or “who isn’t doing what they’re supposed to do”, and whatever else that goes on when we try to deflect blame on to another when we fall short as individuals.

Plain and simple:  No one is doing their jobs right now.  Players play, Coaches coach.  The team is getting it’s butt kicked in both aspects of the game and something needs to change.  The talent is there, the coaches have experience, what’s the problem?

The team is hamstrung, and until a change happens, this is what we’re going to be stuck with.  When I say a “change”, I don’t mean necessarily a trade or a new coach, etc.  When I say “change”, I mean the players need to start playing up to their talent level and the coaches need to put the right systems and lineups in place to put the players in the best chance to succeed.

As I’ve said before, this team has talent.  It may be the “sum of it’s parts” talent and not “superstar” talent, but as we’ve seen in the past the “sum of it’s parts” has success when all players buy in.

To review this season so far:

Game 1: Detroit loses to the New Jersey Nets after leading late into the second half, in New Jersey.  You can accept a loss like this occasionally because it is a road game.  What’s unacceptable is that the lane was open all night for penetration.

Game 2: Detroit loses to the Oklahoma City Thunder in their home opener on a last second layup by Jeff Green.  This game was back and forth all night with one of the Western Conference’s upstart teams.  This game was a very winnable game and in my opinion was the best defensive showing on Kevin Durant all season.

Game 3: Detroit loses to the Chicago Bulls in the Bulls home opener after losing a 19 point lead in the 3rd and 4th quarters.  This was the start of the downward trend that has shown for the last 3 games.  Coaches have put players in a situation where they can’t succeed, players aren’t hitting shots, players are hesitant, etc.  This was the worst second half defensive game of the season.

Game 4: Detroit loses to the Boston Celtics in Detroit.  The Celtics dominated the Pistons in all aspect of the game.  At the end of the game Coach Kuester remarks the team needs leaders, Tayshaun Prince says it starts with the Coach and the fingers start to point.

Game 5: Detroit loses to the Atlanta Hawks in Atlanta.  Close game throughout, but this game was not without it’s own drama.  Ben Gordon had a big night but Rodney Stuckey was benched after reportedly not responding to Coach Kuester’s calls to him during a stoppage in play.

In Game 6  and 7 the Pistons play the Charlotte Bobcats and Golden State Warriors before hitting the road for their first West Coast swing of the season where it looks like those 4 games (Warriors, Clippers, Kings, and Trail Blazers) are going to be tough for this team to win.  I believe the first win comes against the Bobcats because the Bobcats are a team that is kind of stuck in neutral like the Pistons are.  They’re in between rosters right now, and looking to make a move to improve their team.

Of course, I thought they should’ve won the Thunder, Nets, Bulls and Hawks games this season too.  So Pistons fans… what’s wrong with this team?  Who does the blame fall on?  Coaches?  Joe Dumars?  Players?  All of the above?

Another…almost win.

Pistons fans may be tired of saying it, but Wednesday nights game in Atlanta can be added to the “they should have one that one” column. Detroit looked like they were headed for their first win of the season when all things fell apart in the fourth quarter (again). What was a highly competitive game, where the Pistons were probably looking they best they have this short season turned into another loss for Detroit. A five-point, fourth-quarter lead turned into a 85-94 loss in the last five minutes of the game.
Key Points:

  • What mysteriously happened to Rodney Stuckey? Vincent Goodwill of the Detroit News was there.

‘Rodney Stuckey, the team’s only point guard, only played 13 minutes, missing the last 20:56. While the Hawks were at the foul line early in the third quarter, Pistons coach John Kuester called Stuckey’s name.” Stuckey didn’t flinch, so Kuester called for DaJuan Summers to come in, and Stuckey went to the bench without acknowledging his coach. Kuester ended his postgame press conference early, before the question could be asked. Stuckey declined to talk about the matter afterward, saying only, “I’ve got to stay focused.” Via The Detroit News

  • I don’t know what Stuckey  did or did not do, but to pull your only PG in a winnable game makes one think.
  • The Pistons had a 48-44 halftime lead.
  • If you watched, I’m wondering if you thought they would blow it when they had the lead late in the fourth.
  • Things looked good for Greg Monroe, who grabbed 8 boards and scored 7, while adding three assists in 27 minutes on the floor.  He needs time on the floor, but you can see he’s got skills.
  • A little vintage McGrady  – Tracy went over his allotted 15 minutes on the court (24).  Nice contribution with 9 points, 3 assists, 3 steals and 4 boards.  If he can play like that consistantly…it will do wonders for the team.
  • 38-35 rebound war won.
  • Ben Gordon’s hot hand led the way again with 22 points on 9-for-19 shooting in 41 minutes on the floor.  Rip is out, but Ben Gordon starting isn’t hurting my feelings.
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  • Tayshaun clearly had a different attitude Wednesday night.  His point total (17) and his body language said it all.  Whatever back and forth was said in the locker room hopefully is squashed.
  • Austin Daye is still struggling he was 2-for-12 from the floor in 24 minutes, scoring 6 with 4 boards and 3 assists.
  • Detroit had 7 steals on the night and only 8 turnovers…they really should have one this one.  I feel like a broken record.
  • Jason Maxiell DNP.
  • 14 points for Charlie V who went 6-for-16  with 4 boards, 3 assists a seal and a blocked shot.  His response to Kevin Garnett’s Statement about the Tuesday night “trash talk” …”I know what I heard.”

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  • Call me crazy…I know the Pistons are 0-5, but I still think they will be the team I thought they would be to start the season.  We may not make the playoffs, but they will be better than they were last year.  You need to remember, this is not what the team is going to look like come February.

The 0-4 Pistons are in Atlanta to take on the 4-0 Hawks Wednesday night. The annual….Josh Smith to the Pistons talk is back just in time for the game.  The Hawk have looked great, while the Pistons are off to their worst start in 11 years.

Injury Update:

Will Bynum – Out
Rip Hamilton – Doubtful
Chris Wilcox – Doubtful
Tracy McGrady- questionable (but we may just put that by his name all season)

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Tip off is at 7:00 pm and will be broadcast on FSN Detroit. If you can’t catch the game on TV, follow it live over at or on the radio over at 9.71 The Ticket.

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