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The #Pistons did what they were supposed to do on a snowy Saturday night at the Palace of Auburn Hills against a lesser opponent, dominate them. Detroit treated their fans to a 113 – 96 blowout against the Philadelphia 76ers, making it just the second time this season that they have strung together two consecutive home game victories.

Key Points:

  • Five Pistons in double figures and three with double-doubles. The usual suspects being Andre Drummond and Greg Monroe, but Kyle Singler added another tying his career high in rebounds with 10.
  • The last time Detroit had three players with at least 20 points and 10 rebounds was Dec. 3, 1997 when Grant Hill, Bison Dele and Lindsey Hunter all reached those numbers in a 108-103 win over Phoenix.
  • Andre Drummond started the game off on a mission and really showed the league that they make a mistake no selecting him as an All-Star reserve. Drummond finished the game with 22 points on 10-if-11 shooting, with 14 boards and a ridiculous five blocked shots. Did I mention this steal for a Dummified dunk to start the second half?


  • Don’t forget Greg Monroe who also posted big number going 8-for-10 for 21 points, with 12 boards, three assists and four steals in 28 minutes.  If he ends up going at the trade deadline there will be a ton of unhappy Pistons fans out there.
  • Drummond and Monroe were a combined 18-for-21.
  • Great night for Singler to put up a good game.  Stuckey with just eight minutes on the floor scoring just one point.  Stuckey was complaining of dizziness.
  • I so want to root for Gigi Datome, but the limited minutes he does get never seem to amount to anything.  He was 0-of-4 in seven minutes on the floor.
  • Caldwell-Pope with 12 points on 4-of-11 shooting.  Looks like it’s going to take at least a full season to get his shot consistent.  I do however like what he does on the defensive end.
  • Smith, 4-of-10 for nine points and nine boards. I don’t think I’ve come across one Piston fan that can say they like him.  If you’re that fan please let me know.
  • Brandon Jennings is always looking for his shot.  He was 6-of-17 for 20 points and just four assists.
  • Highlights via NBA.com


  • Bynum, who is notorious for looking for his own, had six assists in just 22 minutes.  Brandon was on the floor for 37.
  • Kid Rock and Pistons owner Tom Gores in the house.  I’m pretty sure Gores does not own a long sleeve shirt. Despite Gores Always Sunny attire, he claims he understands this team needs time.
  • Nice to see Detroit hold a team to under 100.
  • I’m really getting to like the other Josh more and more.
  • It’s fun to watch when they play like this, isn’t it?
  • Monday in Miami should be different.

There are times in a guy’s career where he gets snubbed for an All Star team a time or two due to “paying dues”, or like in the case of Andre Drummond this season, because he’s just not on a good team.  The Pistons who are currently playing at a .400 clip, are not playing poorly due to Drummond’s play on the court.  Drummond, 20, is in the top 3 among all Centers in the critical statistical categories aside from blocked shots.  Let’s take a look at the numbers:

Andre Drummond
12.6 points
12.7 rebounds
60% field goal percentage
5.2 win shares

Roy Hibbert (All Star reserve)
11.8 points
7.8 rebounds
46% field goal percentage
4.5 win shares

Joakim Noah (All Star reserve)
11.7 points
11.7 rebounds
46% field goal percentage
5.3 win shares

(Don’t get me started on Chris Bosh, even though he has filled in admirably for the Heat with Wade out for extended periods of time.)

The numbers show that Drummond is deserving to not only make the All Star team, but he would be an acceptable starter if voted in by the fans.  Drummond can partially thank the recent change by the NBA to eliminate the Center position from the balloting, so now fans are not forced to pick a Hibbert or Noah (who would be the popular choices) or like in past seasons Jamaal Magloire.

He also has his team to thank for the snub.  The collective team has not played well enough in a weak Eastern Conference to elevate themselves into the playoff conversation, let alone to be represented in the All Star Weekend events.  Sure, Drummond will play in the “Rising Stars Rookie vs. Sophomores” game.  Had he been snubbed from that game, then we really would’ve had a problem.  (I believe Kyle Singler AND Kentavious Caldwell-Pope were both snubbed)
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As a group, the coaching staff and players should look to this snub as a personal affront and should serve as a cold, hard truth about how the outside world views them.  The team is broken as a collective group, but even the stars are overlooked in favor for lesser performers.  Greg Monroe is being the ultimate team player by playing out of position and putting up with career low usage.  Andre Drummond is dunking everything in sight, to the tune of what should be an All Star reserve nomination and he has nothing to show for it.  These are our 2 building blocks and they’re in the years of their careers when showing promise for the future means that they may want to stick around for the duration of their careers… and the bunch of guys around them are playing and working as if they have no clue what they’re doing or wasting away.

Maybe Drummond will receive some recognition if Noah by chance chooses not to play (he’s been injured a little lately), but even then the damage is done and the truth is in black and white.  The Pistons are so bad, even their best players aren’t good enough for the bright lights.

Turrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible….

The Pistons snapped their four game losing streak with a 103-87 win over the Orlando Magic at The Palace of Auburn Hills.  Detroit held the Magic to less than 100 points, something they haven’t been able to do in quite some time. Detroit has given up over 100 points in 19 of their last 25 games.

Key Points:

  • Despite not hitting his first few shots, Brandon Jennings led the Pistons with 20 points on 7-of-19 shooting with eight assists and three steals. Jennings is scoring the bulk of Detroit’s points on many nights so it’s nice to see his turn over ratio go down since he’s handling the ball for most of the time he’s out there.

Andre DrummondAndre Drummond: “Last game was a tough game. I didn’t play to my ability. Everybody is entitled to have an off night. I had to come out and play with a lot more energy than I had the night before.” Via NBA.com

  • Detroit was in the driver’s seat most of the night, but it was a 9-0 run in the third quarter to make it 70-55 that took all the life out of Orlando.
  • Andre Drummond with his 33rd double-double of the season. Dre scored 13 with 17 boards and two blocked shots in 32 minutes on the floor. Andre made up for his sub-par game against the Mavericks by playing like a beast from the tip-off. He just about had his double-double before the half.
Andre Drummond Pistons vs Magic

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  • Great Stat – Drummond’s 12.7 rebounding average is No. 1 in NBA history for a player 20 years old or younger.
  • Caldwell-Pope didn’t do much offensively, but he sure did a nice job on the defensive end against former Piston Arron Afflalo who put up 14 for Orlando.
  • It was nice to see Josh Harrellson get some time early. He made the most of it knocking down a three and grabbing eight boards in 18 minutes.
  • Gigi had some garbage minutes scoring two points on two shots. Was I the only one that had high hopes for him?
  • Maybe Josh Smith is reading his shot selection stat and the fact that he’s one of the worst shooters in the league. Smith scored 16 on 8-of-12 shooting, with much better shot selection.
  • Highlights via NBA.com


  • I got a change to use the Pistons app on my phone to upgrade my seats yesterday. And sure enough scored some prime court-side. Thanks @ThePalace !

bynumWill Bynum: “There’s a lot of bad things roaming in the air, a lot of negative energy, so we’re just happy to get a win.”

  • Props to Rodney Stuckey who put up 13 while surpassing the 6000 career point mark.
  • Singler with 12 points on 4-of-7 shooting with four boards and a blocked shot.
  • It’s been quite some time since I’ve seen this team with the fire they showed from start to finish. Think Cheeks knows he’s on the hot seat?
  • A quick turnaround with a game Wednesday night in Atlanta.

Turrible… It’s hard to not just mail it in on game re-caps after the Pistons mailed it in last night against the Mavericks, in Dallas.   The good news is that they came out of the halftime break showing some fight, with a 35 point outburst.  The bad news though, and this won’t be reported as a “4th quarter collapse” since they were losing heading into the 4th quarter, but the Mavs proved to be too much for the Pistons in the 4th quarter as they pulled away with a 32 point quarter behind the leadership of Dirk Nowitzki and former Piston Jose Calderon.

The good:

  • Greg Monroe scored 20 and fell short of a double-double by 1 rebound.  Dirk is a tough matchup for most, and you could tell when Monroe matched up with him that he was out of his comfort zone.

The bad:

  • 116 points on 74 field goal attempts by the Mavs.  58% from the field and 23-28 from the line mean that they were aggressive and assertive on offense all night.
  • 28 points in 3 of 4 quarters, and 32 in the 4th quarter for the Mavs.  No one took leadership on the defensive side of the ball.
  • Brandon Jennings had a good night on offense, but had half of the team’s turnovers with 6.
  • Jose Calderon took advantage of the Pistons poor perimeter defense to the tune of 17 points on 7-8 shooting
  • Devin Harris and the shell of Vince Carter’s former self were a +12 off the bench for the Mavs
  • Andre Drummond was in a tough spot all night, but at times it was so bad that he was pulled for Josh Harrellson because of blown assignments and poor matchups.

The ugly:

  • Usually I hate to keep beating a dead horse but… Josh Smith is a chucker.  25 points on 24 shots is awful.  At least he only had 2 3 point attempts.
  • Rodney Stuckey and Kyle Singler were awful off the bench.

The Pistons have now lost 4 straight, and it’s hard to see an end to this streak in sight.  On one night, they look like world beaters when they hand the Indiana Pacers their only home loss of the season and beat down the Miami Heat… but then on the next night they “done get blowed out” by teams like the Charlotte Bobcats, Utah Jazz, and other bottom feeders.

As a fan, you try to see the good that the team has.  Right now we know we have 2 cornerstone type players in Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond.  We have an unknown quantity in Caldwell-Pope, and there is some upside in the future with Tony Mitchell.  That’s it, folks.  We knew who Brandon Jennings was before he came to this team, and he hasn’t changed (no matter how many ‘Bad Boys’ t-shirts he wore as a kid).  We all let out a collective sigh when Josh Smith was signed because he has shown that he can’t (won’t?) adapt his game to a system.  I was a Trey Burke fan at the draft, but I’ll give Kentavious Caldwell-Pope my support because he has shown some flashes.  As Natalie said here, the sun’s not even shining on this dog’s a** nowadays.

The 17-26 #Pistons are in Dallas Sunday night to take on the 25-20 Mavericks. The slumping Pistons are on a downhill spiral, but hope to get something going against a Dallas team that has won eight of the last nine matchups and a five straight home against the Detroit.

The good: Andre Drummond is doing things right. Drummond scored 20 points and a career high 20 rebound in the Pistons loss to New Orleans on Friday night. He also make no excuses when it comes to they way this team is playing of late.

Andre DrummondAndre Drummond “We just make poor decisions down the stretch of the game sometimes and we have to get better at it,” said Andre Drummond, who had 21 points and a career-high 20 rebounds Friday. “Nip that in the bud and try to finish games up.” Via NBA.com

The bad: Detroit added another to the loss column when they blew a 10-point lead in the final five minutes of the game against the Pelicans. Many are pointing to the last shot  Brandon Jennings heaved beyond half court with the Pistons down two points and still had a timeout with. You could clearly see that Cheeks was calling for a timeout and he’s taking full responsibility for the “mishap.”

cheeksMaurice Cheeks “I tried to call a timeout, that timeout is on me.”

The unknown: Will this team turn the corner against a Dallas team that has won three straight and 10 of the last 12 meetings against them? Will Joe Dumars regret not doing whatever it took to resign the now Maverick Jose Calderon instead of bringing Jennings in to lead this team. Will it be a Happy Monday for the Pistons?
Injuries: Pistons: None
Mavericks: Gal Mekel – Out

Stat: Andre Drummond recorded his first career 20-point, 20-rebound game with 21 points and a career-high 20 rebound vs.New Orleans (1/24). Drummond became the first piston with a 20-20 game since Antonio McDyess vs. New York (3/11/09).
Stat: Detroit hasn’t won a regular-season series against Dallas since 1997-98.

Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit . If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.

After each game this Pistons fan would to tell herself, “it’s ok things will get better.” And after each game of telling myself that, I looked into the mirror and realized how unrealistic and idiotic I was being.

I no longer utter those words to myself. Why? Because this team is a train wreck.Fennis Dembo

I’ve watched them through the teal years. I’ve watched the selection of Mateen Cleaves, Rodney White and Darko. I watched Fennis Dembo and William Bedford ride the bench, and even cheered for Pepe Sanchez when he got garbage minutes. And for some reason I have a maroon Stacey Augmon Pistons jersey.

So why after being so positive though all of my years as a fan has it come to this?

Andre Drummond NBA Detroit Pistons WallpaperBecause this year was supposed to be different. This was the year they were supposed to turned the corner after being in limbo for more years than I care to remember.  They have a superstar in Andre Drummond, but the pieces around him don’t fit the puzzle. This team is broken and I blame the one person I always gave a pass to.

In Joe Dumars I don’t trust…anymore.

In Joe Dumars I don't Trust

How do I loathe thee…let me count the ways.

  • Allen Iverson
  • Michael Curry
  • John Kuester
  • Keeping the Championship team together too long
  • Ben Gordon
  • Charlie Villanueva
  • Austin Daye
  • Rip Hamilton’s extended stay
  • A player mutiny
  • Jason Maxiell’s extended stay with a healthy payday

I can go on and on, but I won’t. It’s been said enough times by most of you. So now what?

Bless Joe D, he’ll still always be one of my favorite players of all time, and I thank him for the many years of happiness on court and off with the Pistons.


He brought us championships as a player and a GM,  but he also had many gifts fall in his lap like Greg Monroe, Andre Drummand and even Ben Wallace. They need a fresh start.

Tom Gores at The Palace

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I’m also not putting all the blame on Dumars, he had issues when he couldn’t do much during the sale of the team.  And I’ve seen enough of Tom Gores to know that he could care less about this basketball team.

You can spend hours of time and possibly your sanity on the trade machine, but things like that just never seem to work out.  Pistons fans are in a tough spot. You wish for a trade that may help this team in the future, but you’re afraid of the outcome of the trade.  It’s also terrible to think that this team miss out on anything before the deadline.

And do you trust that freed up cap space can be used wisely?

Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon

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I also can understand many of you who at this point would rather see this team tank for a pick then have them slide into the playoffs in the awful Eastern Conference only to get dismantled in the first round.

I don’t know why, but at times I feel the need to apologize myself for this mess to someone who cared more than all of us put together. Sorry Bill.

Bill Davidson

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So now we just sit back and watch this team that isn’t gelling get hammered by teams at the bottom of the barrel. But guess what…this team is the bottom of the barrel.

They need help, or a miracle.

The 17-24 #Pistons are in Milwaukee to take on the 7-33 Bucks Wednesday night. Detroit will try to make it four in a row on the road with a win against the league’s worst team.

The good: Detroit has won three consecutive games against the Bucks , who are currently sitting in the cellar. It’s a great time for the Pistons to get a dominating victory to try to turn this thing around for the second half of the season.
Rodney Stuckey looks completely healed from his shoulder surgery and making himself a very coveted player this trade season. Stuckey scored a season-high 29 points off the bench in the Pistons loss to the Clippers Monday afternoon.
The bad: Detroit always seems to know how to lose the games they should win.
I’m sure that the Wizards aren’t the only team that would like to have Greg Monroe.
The unknown: Who’s going win the war of the reversed Brandon’s?  Who has more to prove, Jennings or Knight?
Injuries: Pistons: None
Bucks: Carlos Delfino – Out
Zaza Pachulia – Out

Stat: Andre Drummond is averaging 18.0 points and 13.5 rebounds against the Bucks this season.
Stat: The Bucks swatted a season-high 13 shots during the 12/4 game in Milwaukee, six by Ekpe Udoh alone.
Fact: Three former Pistons play for the Bucks. Carlos Delfino, Brandon Knight and Khris Middleton
Stat: Brandon Jennings tied franchise records previously held by Isiah Thomas for most assists in a quarter (11) and most assists in a half (16) vs. Phoenix (1/11)

Tip off is at 8:00 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit . If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.

A second half turnaround for Josh Smith Saturday night helped propel the Pistons to a 104-98 win against the Wizards. Smith, after putting up just two points in the first half added 20 points in the second to lead Detroit in the win.

Key Points:

  • Detroit looked like they were headed in the same direction in their 21 point loss to the Jazz Friday night, but a determined Detroit team turned it around after the half.
  • The Pistons dominated the paint outscoring the Wizards 52-38.
  • Rodney Stuckey looks like he’s back to being one of the best players to come off the bench in the NBA. Stuckey scored 20 points on 8-of-15 shots in 31 minutes on the floor.
  • Caldwell-Pope still looking to find a consistent shot scored just five points on 2-of-10 shooting.
  • This team needs a free throw coach. Detroit was 18 of 31 from the line.
  • Kyle Singler again with the consistent hustle play put up 14 points with a steal, four boards and an assist.
  • Drummond and Monroe with double-doubles.
  • I understand this team in difficult to watch at times. I also understand that like many of you we know with the talent on this team they should be playing so much better. I just can’t understand the “fans” that claim they’re never going to watch this team again. To me those people aren’t really fans.
  • John Wall won the battle of the point guards putting up 34 points leading all scorers.
  • Brandon Jennings with 14 points on 4-of-13 shooting with eight assists and three steals.
  • Highlights via NBA.com


  • Andre Drummond with 10 points on 5-of-6 shooting with 13 boards.
  • Greg Monroe with 12 points on-5-of-7 shooting with ten boards.
  • Are you like me? Are you waiting for a Pistons trade to go down? I’m waiting for something to happen, but totally afraid of what the end result is going to be. In Joe I don’t trust anymore.
  • Another one Monday afternoon against the Clippers at the Palace.

Josh Smith has a heck of a night on Friday against the 76ers, but he was the hero of the Palace when he scored the winning layup with 1.2 seconds left on the clock to give the Pistons the win against the Suns 110-108.

Key Points:

  • It was a frustrating night at the Palace for Pistons fans who watched Detroit lose an 18 point second half lead that gave way to the Suns knocking down open threes late in the fourth quarter. What’s even worse is Detroit led by three points 108-105 with 26 seconds on the clock on a Josh Smith three pointer only to have the Suns tie it up when Smith fouled Gerald Green on the other end to send him on to for three foul shots that he made to tie it with 4.3 on the clock.

smithJosh Smith: “The last time I had the opportunity in New York, I settled for a jump shot [missing it in the closing seconds of an 89-85 loss to the Knicks. I wanted to be aggressive. I learned from that play that I made. I wanted to put the onus on the officials and I was able to get a good look at it." Via NBA.com

  • Smith finished with 25 on 11-of-16 shooting with 11 boards, five assist and a blocked shot.
  • Sheed, who did the post game interview at the Palace, reiterated that Josh said in the huddle as they were mapping out the last play the he wanted to make basically make up for his miss in New York. It wasn't more than 15 minutes after the buzzer has ended and Sheed was in his Pistons sweats and his Air Force One's.
  • Brandon Jennings had a heck of a night. Jennings tied Isiah Thomas' franchise record with 16 assists in the first half of the game. Jennings finished the game with 18 assists, a career high, adding eight points and eight boards.
Brandon Jennings Career Assists 18

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  • Smith, Drummond and Monroe with double-doubles.
  • Greg Monroe scored 20 points with 12 boards, four assists and a steal.
  • Andre Drummond 13 points, 13 boards and five blocked shots. Dre looks like he’s making a point of blocking every shot that comes his way.
  • This dunk from what was clearly the most exciting assist on the night from Jennings, brought the house down.


  • Was wondering why Cheeks didn’t have either Monroe or Drummond in the game when it counted to grab boards? I know the Suns had a small lineup out there, but Detroit couldn’t get a board to save their life in when the big fella’s weren’t out there.
  • The Suns tried the Hack-A-Dre.  When they sent Andre to the line and he made the first one, he glared at Phoenix’s bench. No words were needed to know what Andre was saying, it’s just too bad he didn’t make them both.
  • Can’t let Barbosa, who the Suns just signed on the 10 day contract, get wide open threes late in the game.
  • Highlights via NBA.com


  • Will Bynum with 16 points on 6-of-11 shooting with one assist in 23 minutes. Bless Will, but he’s got to pass first instead of try to do everything himself when he’s out there.
  • Singler with cringe-worthy 6 turnovers, most of them coming as the Suns where edging their way back. Singler finished with six points on 3-of-9 shooting, adding eight boards.
  • It’s clear Rodney Stuckey isn’t back to true form yet. He finished with eight points in 20 minutes.
  • It’s funny how many people who go to Pistons games have no idea what’s going on. The girl behind me asked the guy she was with why Tayshaun Prince wasn’t playing.
  • The three-point line needs help, both offensively and defensively. The Suns were 13-35 from downtown, while Detroit was just 3-of-17 for a lowly 17.6%.
  • An extended break for Detroit, who don’t play again until Friday at the Palace against the Jazz.

The 14-22 #Pistons are in Philadelphia to take on the 12-23 Sixers Friday night. The Pistons need to stop the bleeding when they take the court against the Sixers having lost six in a row and eight of their last nine games, and they have a good chance of doing so against a Sixers team that has the worst defense in the league.

The good: Detroit is 1-0 against the Sixers this season. The fact the Sixers are in “tank” mode and they give up a 111.1 points per game. The last time these two teams played Andre Drummond did this:

Andre Drummond Career Highs

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The bad: All that is Detroit basketball right now from free throw shooting, shot selection, the rotation and selfishness. Detroit has got to figure something out before their slide puts them out of contention in the beyond lowly Eastern Conference.
The unknown: Can Maurice Cheeks work some kind of magic and get the Pistons back on track in the Philadelphia, the place where it all happened for him? Will he actually make the changes he’s pondering?

“He finally relented when asked if he would consider lineup changes if this slide continues.

cheeks“Yeah, uh-huh. It only makes sense, you can’t keep doing things the same way and expect different results,” Cheeks said. “At some point, yeah. I’m close.”

So, he has time to tinker, whether it’s moving Rodney Stuckey to the starting lineup or Kyle Singler or even moving one of his three big men to the second unit.

He wouldn’t hedge on one move or another but he admits the current way of doing things hasn’t been working.

The Pistons are the worst-shooting team in the league.

They’re a league-worst 30th in three-point shooting and from the free-throw line.

“But it’s still just a thought. It’s not right there,” Cheeks said. “With Stuckey back, so that helps to get back to where we were, coming off the bench and getting some production.” Via The Detroit News

Injuries: None
Sixers (if you know any of them besides Noel): Lavoy Allen – is questionable.
Arnett Moultrie and Nerlens Noel – are out.

Fact: Detroit has won nine of the last 15 games against the 76ers.
Stat: Andre Drummond ranks first in the NBA in offensive rebounding with 5.3 and tied for third in double-doubles with 25.

Tip off is at 7:00 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit . If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.