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The 3-6 Pistons are back home after a 1-3 West Coast swing to face the 3-6 New York Knicks. The Knicks and Pistons share a common theme, although it was assumed the Pistons’ wouldn’t be as bad as its been, in that they have putting disjointed lineups on the floor while searching for the right combination of defense to go with their offense. While the Pistons have all their players healthy for the most part, the Knicks are hurting for big man help with Tyson Chandler being out with a broken leg and Amare Stoudemire relegated to 12th man status for Coach Woodson.

  • The good:Home sweet home, finally… The Pistons have struggled in recent seasons on trips to the West Coast. They’re currently 2-2 at home, with 2 of their losses coming in competitive contests against 2 of the league’s best teams in Indiana and Oklahoma City.
  • The bad:The Pistons are shooting 28% from 3 while their opponents are shooting 39%. A lot of the opponent percentages has to do with Josh Smith and Jonas Jerebko sagging off of their man to provide help D in the paint. As former PF, it’s only natural for them to sag back to their natural spot to help Monroe or Drummond. Detroit’s shooting is a problem we knew would be there, but the percentage differential is the likely cause of 1-2 losses so far in this early season.
  • The unknown:Can Josh Smith stop Imam Shumpert and can Greg Monroe guard Carmelo Anthony effectively? The Knicks are a team that likes to get up and down, while the Pistons are running a more traditional lineup of big men stuck on the block. Coach Cheeks may need to get creative with his rotations tonight in order for the Pistons to not get killed in transition.

Some familiar faces will be on the floor for Pistons fans tonight. Tim Hardaway Jr., standout rookie from Michigan, will see time as the backup SG and SF position for the Knicks, and let’s not forget Metta World Peace is now a Knick as well. The matchup to watch is not necessarily 2 guys who will be guarding each other. Brandon Jennings and JR Smith have made waves on twitter in the last week, leading to a $25,000 fine for JR Smith for the language he used. The last thing we need is a confrontation, especially with a team that has Amare Stoudemire, Kenyon Martin and Metta World Peace on the bench. In other news JR’s brother, the center of the twitter controversy, has been assigned to the D League and will not suit up in street clothes for tonight’s game.

Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports . If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 the Ticket.

The 4-18 Pistons are in New York to play their second game of a back to back to back against the 7-13 Knicks. The team that everyone thought was going to be the new team to beat in the east has been playing well…like the Pistons have.

  • The good: The shorthanded Pistons may have a chance with Carmelo Anthony and Baron Davis most likely out for New York.
  • The bad: Everything in Milwaukee. In the Pistons most recent three game of the losing streak, opponents have made 29 of 48 (60.4%) from 3-point range. The Pistons have allowed 101.0 points per game on 50.8% shooting in all five losses.
  • Who to watch: Soon to be (hopefully) All-Star Greg Monroe and the Knicks Chandler and Stoudemire.
  • The unknown: Can Brandon Knight bounce back from last night in Milwaukee quickly?

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Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports. If you can’t catch the game on TV, catch it on the radio over at 97.1 the Ticket.

UPDATE: Please don’t make me recap the TURRABLE. At this point I’m just going to get upset. Lets discuss in the comments.

Another one bites the dust.  Pistons 86 Knicks 113

The Pistons got pummeled Saturday night at the Palace of Auburn Hills 103-80 in what may have been one of the worst showings by a Pistons team that I witnessed since the dreaded teal years.

Key Points:

  • It was actually 25-24 after the first quarter.  I left my seat for five minutes and the Knicks had already started the beat down.  They blew the score wide open in about a three minutes span going on a 16-0 run.
  • New York outscored the Pistons 39 to 18 in the second quarter and 22-to-15 in the third.
  • The dunks and open look shots the Knicks put up on the Pistons were demoralizing.  Every time it happened the Palace crowd gave an awe in unison.
  • At one point this team was shooting about 27% from the floor.  They finished shooting 37%.
  • This little stat was just really a first quarter thing.  The game was tied 7 times with 5 lead changes.
  • I think I saw “angry” Lawrence Frank more time than I wanted to last night.
  • Careless with the ball. A disgusting 20 turnovers.
  • Brandon Knight, who started again in place or Rodney Stuckey,  led the Pistons with 19 points, 6 boards, 4 assists and 3 steals. The kid is good and has a very bright future, but he needs work.  Knight launched 13 3-point shots and didn’t get to the foul line.
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  • Austin Daye in street clothes, though the score might have been worse if he had played.
  • Murdered on the boards, that was one reason the Knicks were able to build their massive lead.
  • Shame on this team for letting Mike Bibby kill them from downtown.  He’s almost as old as Lawrence Frank.
  • Greg Monroe with 15 points and 5 boards.
  • When the team has to count on Jason Maxiell and Damian Wilkins, there is serious trouble. No disrespect to either of them but Tayshaun and others need to start producing.
  • Want to talk about Turrrrable…Ben Gordon committed 9 of Detroit’s turnovers and was 5-for-12 with 12 points. His shot selection is suspect.
  • Jonas and Prince were both 1-for-6.
  • BTW in the official box score Charlie V is a DNP because of a sore right ankle.  Did he catch that from Daye?
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  • 50 points in the paint for the Knicks.
  • The game was getting so out of hand that my math skills + a drink wasn’t allowing me to keep up with the deficit.  The Knicks led by as much as 30 in this one.

Lawrence Frank: “This is not representative of who we want to be. We all have to own it. This is going to be a long season, so what we have to do is figure out all the things that are going to be part of the solution.”

  • I can’t really spin any positives on this one, especially since the loudest roar I’ve heard at the Palace in quite some time was when they showed that the Lions had scored their first touchdown.

So, the musical starting lineups continued with Rip out due to the death of his Grandfather.

Austin Daye – SG
Tracy McGrady – SG
Tayshaun Prince – SF
Greg Monroe – PF
Ben Wallace – C

This lineup is interesting because Stuckey had previously been the replacement for any missing pieces from the backcourt but also since Kuester starts McGrady at the point, while Ben Gordon coming off the bench behind Austin Daye is also kind of a statement about how the coaching staff feels about Gordon.  Anywho, more about the game later…

Last night was the annual “Pistons Care Telethon” in which during the game the Pistons organization solicits donations from the crowd and viewers from home that go to benefit the Boys and Girls clubs of Michigan.  The donations started at 5am and ran all throughout the game, which helped the organization amass $350,110 in donations.  If you happened to donate during the telethon, you helped a great organization that has helped so many children through the years stay on the right path when we all know it’s so easy for them to fall off so… Great job!

  • Both teams exchanged awful quarters to close out the game: The Pistons stumbled out of the shoot with a 17 point 3rd quarter while the Knicks closed out the 4th quarter with 15 points.
  • Poor Carmelo Anthony pouted his way past the media after the game, and sat on the bus without speaking to anyone.  I’d be mad too if the team I was on was 7-6 (and traded away their young talent) since acquiring me while my old team was 9-3.
  • Will Bynum, Charlie Villanueva, and Chris Wilcox pushed this team to victory in the 2nd half.  Wilcox was easily the player of the game who scored 13 and rebounded 12 to go along with a handful of highlight plays including a put back dunk to put the Pistons ahead late in the 4th.
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  • Amar’e Stoudemire did have a nice dunk over Greg Monroe but, let’s be honest, he wasn’t really a factor in the game.  He lead the Knicks in scoring and rebounds with 20 and 12.
  • The Knicks have no depth – all the Knicks fans that are complaining about the Knicks not winning need to look no further than Toney Douglas and Ronny Turiaf being the first players off the bench to see why the team will not be successful this year.
  • lol Jared Jeffries starts for the Knicks
  • While the Knicks were running their 8 man rotation out there, the Pistons employed a 10 man rotation with 2 guys playing 30 minutes (Tay and Stuckey), 1 guy playing less than 20 (Bynum) and everyone else playing 20-27 minutes
  • Charlie V for threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee: Villanueva went 4-6 from the long line
  • Chauncey Billups with a less than stellar return to Detroit: 12 points
  • Carmelo Anthony with a less than stellar game: 6 points on 2-12 from the field
  • Who needs consistency?  The Pistons have used 18 different starting lineups this season.  Remember when the starting lineup used to be the same every game for Detroit? Sad, isn’t it?
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This was a solid win for the Pistons, who at this point are playing the role of spoiler in any win they get meaning – they spoil their chances at a better lottery pick while also putting playoff bound teams in a position for a lower seed in the playoffs.

The Pistons now hit the road after this win to take on Zaza Pachulia, Jeff Teague and the Atlanta Hawks in Atlanta for a Sunday afternoon game.  The Hawks have quietly had a decent season after an offseason in which they significantly overpaid for Joe Johnson.

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The Pistons, despite holding their own with the Knicks thorough three quarters, just couldn’t keep up with the high scoring pace as Detroit dropped their third in a row to New York 106-124.

Key Points:

  • No Ben Wallace (personal reasons), no Stuckey and Rip was out with the “flu”. If Rip’s “flu” keeps lingering like this the Pistons had better call in Dr. House to get to the bottom of whatever it is that’s ailing him.
  • 91-91 at the end of the third quarter. The Pistons couldn’t go blow for blow against the high scoring Knicks. No D and a 10-2 run for New York in the fourth did the Pistons in.
  • The Pistons shot 50% for the night and 54.5% from behind the arch. And they lost!
  • Defense anyone?
  • Fifth double-double of the season for Greg Monroe who scored 15 points and grabbed 17 boards (career high). The most rebounds from a Pistons rookie since Grant Hill had 16 in his rookie season. Monroe had 14 and 16 before the third quarter but had to sit with foul trouble. It’s not just the rebounds or the points for Monroe…it’s everything he does. From the hustle to the assists (2) to the steals (2) to the tips, he’s doing it all.
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  • Add Russian rookie Tim Mozgov to one of those no name guys that the Pistons make look like an all-start. Mozgov averages 2.3 points and 2.0 rebounds in 10 minutes a game had a career night with 23 points and 14 rebounds.
  • The Pistons were led by the extremely hot hand of Ben Gordon, who scored 35 points and went 7-for-11 from downtown. Gordon scored 16 points in the third quarter in 42 minutes. Nice to see that shot go in like that, especially since we really haven’t seen it with Gordon in a Pistons uniform.
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  • Ben Gordon Highlights

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  • Give it up to Chris Wilcox who really is becoming a sold backup for this team (though he did start in place of Ben Wallace). Chris scored 5 points with 6 boards and 4 assists in 31 minutes and did his best to help defend the beast the is Amare Stoudemire.
  • Stoudemire with 33, Gallinari with 29 and Mozgov with 23 for New York.
  • Was it me or did T-Mac look like he was exhausted by mid third quarter? He finished with 12 points, 3 boards and 3 assists.
  • Charlie Villanueva hit some timely 3′s finished with 11 points in 19 minutes.
  • Limited time for Austin Daye who was 0-for-3 in 10 minutes.
  • Maxiell fell way out of the rotation. Jason logged a whopping 26 seconds while DaJuan Summers played 12 minutes and scored 4.
  • As solid as they come, it seems like the Pistons can always count on Tayshaun Prince this season. He put up 16 points, but struggled doing it. His posterizing dunk over Gallinari…a TP classic.

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  • Despite all the drama and the Pistons record, they really seem like they are finding their way. Dare I say they have finally meshed?
  • Don’t forget that Wednesday is Pistons Social Media Night…so brave the massive blizzard that the Metro Area is bracing for and head out to the game to meet Jonas Jerebko!

The 17-30 Pistons are in New York to take on the 24-22 Knicks Sunday night. The Pistons would love to was away the stink of their win loss in Miami and finish off their difficult week with a win in New York. If the game is anything like the last time he Pistons met the Knicks, they are in for a tough game.

New York will be without reserve forward Shawne Williams, suspended one game Saturday for throwing punches during an altercation with Marvin Williams. The incident began when the Atlanta player pushed him in the back.

The Pistons Rodney Stuckey (right shoulder contusion) is listed as day-to-day and I’m quite certain Rip’s battle with the “flu” will last longer than we think.

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Tip off is at 7:30 pm and will be broadcast on Fox Sports Detroit . If you can’t catch the game on TV, follow it live over at or on the radio over at 97.1 The Ticket.

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Besides his gritty no holds barred play, I have come to love the fact that the Pistons Jonas Jerebko doesn’t back down…ever.  Remember when he was suspended for the first game of the year for that little altercation?  It was a sign to come that this Bad Boy will put up a fight if he has to.

When this came across my screen all I could do was smile.  Amare (who tends to get frustrated when he doesn’t get his way) decides to throw the ball Jerebkos’ way and “play it” like he was trying to throw the ball off Jonas to keep control of the ball.  The refs weren’t having it, and neither was Jonas.

During the slow-mo clip look at  JJ’s face and what he says to Amare.  I can’t read his lips, but I can tell that if he had to he would have stepped in the ring with Stoudemire.

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Sounds like somebody’s got a case of the Mondays, doesn’t it?

It usually doesn’t turn out well for the Pistons or their fans on Monday mornings when Detroit plays on Sunday. Detroit added to their Sunday loss total last night after their 107-97 loss to the Suns at The Palace, despite great play by Allen Iverson and Rip Hamilton, who have been the talk of the team since Rip took on his new role as sixth man.

Key Points:

  • Steve Nash had more assists (21) than the Detroit Pistons had as a team (19).
  • Seems as though plenty of Pistons fans were vocal at the Palace last night.  They made sure they let Amare know they wanted to see him in a Pistons uniform.
  • Amare on possibly playing in Detroit: “It would be phenomenal. I think the fans here have been probably the top fans in the world since I’ve been in the NBA. They’re always cheering their team on and every time we come here, their always loud and rowdy, so it would be fun to play here.” Via MLive
  • Don Shane talks to Amare (Video)
  • This team has become a turnover machine.  Remember when Chauncey was in charge?  The Pistons had 14 turnovers last night, with most leading to easy Phoenix buckets.
  • Kwame Brown started the game to take some heat off Rasheed by guarding Shaq.  He even had a sweet putback dunk in the opening minute. Eight boards and 4 points in 18 minutes isn’t bad but the 3 turnovers killed his stat line.
  • AI scored 25 in 41 minutes on the floor going 8-for-22.  That’s the AI of old, he scores a ton but usually needs a lot of shots to do it in. I’m fine with it as long as the Pistons win. He added 7 assists, 4 steals and 3 boards. And a pretty sweet floater over Shaq.

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  • Rodney Stuckey seems out of place since Rip started to heat up. He played 29 minutes and scored 8 with an assist, 3 boards and a blocked shot.
  • This is NOT a typo……The Suns scored 66 points in the Paint! I will say no more. Oh I lied, one more thing… 31 fast break points!!
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  • Now I thought it was just me who noticed the bias during the ESPN broadcast, but it seems I’m not the only one who took note of it. This little snippet from the ESPN crew took shots at the Pistons players, the fans (spoiled), the city and then had the nerve throw the Lions in there. Kick a city when they’re down why don’t you?

  • Oh and every shot the Pistons missed was wayyyyyyyyyy off, as explained to us by the ESPN crew after every Piston miss.
  • Double-double for Rasheed Wallace with 16 points and 10 boards, who added 4 steals and a blocked shot.  He’s looking good lately, but how long he will be able to keep this up with the time he’s getting on court is another thing.
  • Antonio McDyess is the hardest working Piston period. Double digit rebounds night in and night out. Ice 4 Dyess is truly an understatement.
  • This is one of the most ridiculous assists I have seen in a long time.  Allen Iverson cross court bounce pass through the legs of Grant Hill to Rip for the layup.
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