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The Detroit Pistons and their 2nd round pick (36th overall) Terrico White agreed to a 2 year deal yesterday. White, a 6’5 combo guard from Ole Miss, averaged 15 points and 1.5 assists per game last season for the Rebels. It has been reported that White will see time at the point guard position, a position he saw limited time in while at Ole Miss. Many NBA draft “experts” have said White has “NBA Draft Lottery” talent, but that he does have a problem creating shots for others as he ranked among the worst ball distributors of all starting guards in NCAA Division 1 last season.
White is described as a “toolsy” player who has the leaping ability, the mid-range game, etc to compete on the pro-level. Many have said his game translates most to former Piston Flip Murray. White showed some flashes during the Summer League, with his best game probably coming against the Lakers where he scored 17 points. Other positives include: he’s a solid mid range shooter, he’s an adequate on the ball defender, he does not turn the ball over (1.3 turns per game last season) he’s a solid rebounder for a guard (4.6 per game) last season, and he has a 6’9 wingspan. Some things he needs to work on is his aggressiveness taking the ball to the basket to draw fouls, and setting up teammates for scoring chances.
With the signing of Tracy McGrady, and the addition of White to the roster, the Detroit Pistons now have 15 players under contract for the 2010-2011 season. In order to make a move to acquire another player they would need to cut and/or trade the same amount of players in return to make changes to the roster. I expect White to see the majority of his playing time happen in the NBA D-League this season. Depending on how he performs (as well as current Piston combo guard Rodney Stuckey) he may have a better chance of making the NBA Pistons’ active roster next season, barring injuries and/or trades that happen this year.
He’s a young guy that has some time to develop. Having seen some of his highlights from the Summer League games, I can see him becoming a rotation player at some point down the line for this team.
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you see danny this is exactly what I’m talking about
“I apologize if your reading comprehension isn’t up to par with others. ”
I gave you some friendly criticism. Take my advice! Be nicer. I’m wrong a lot, and I like you correcting me, but it’s all in the tone.
You took my criticism as a PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU!!!!!
My reading comprehension? I’m trying to HELP YOU BE NICER. I’m trying to be your friend. But you took it as an attack on you. AND you deny that I even have a point of view that needs to be acknowledged. Sure your feelings are hurt, that’s part of what happens when you accept criticism.
But I think that you, just like the Pistons team that we all love, can improve. You can get better, and the principle way is just to work harder at structuring your comments in a way that people don’t feel like you are attacking them, that instead of attacking, you are helping.
I think the reason I feel qualified to give you this advice is that I can be a real dick, myself, and I definitely notice you have those same attributes.
1. Actually, the “I apologize” comment was the first time I’ve taken exception to anything anyone has said about me. I reply when others are wrong, but I don’t say they’re wrong. Like your comment before, I simply asked why “Indian” had a bad offseason when they acquired a starting point guard for an $11m per season expiring contract.
2. Don’t compare yourself to me.
3. I don’t take your “criticism” as a personal attack at all. My feelings aren’t hurt, and have yet to be hurt by anything anyone says on the internet.
4. and this is final – if you don’t like what I post on the site guess what, I was asked to contribute by Natalie. If you don’t like it, email her and take it up with her.
Also, if you don’t like it, then don’t comment on it if you don’t want to interact with a site contributor. You’ll see Natalie comments rarely, so I thought I was offering up a change of pace for you guys. Honestly, it seems like all you want is a “Lord of the Flies” way of managing the comments section and I’m cool with it. I don’t have to comment on your comments, I can let my email inbox fill up with comments from the same people trying to use 5 different names all day long and not respond.
I’m done commenting with you guys. You can have the comment section back.
So you’re gonna take your ball and go home. You’ve got a thin skin.
I’m not taking my ball anywhere. You can read what I post. Take your complaints to Natalie.
I don’t have to “be” Natalie. Natalie doesn’t want me to “be” her anyway.
jesus what the hell is up your snatch danny?
i dont think anyone’s liked you from the start…
(but of course, you would know right? you know everything)
“actually, blah blah blah”
youre a dick.
go need4sheed! and nat! and edt!
Yeah Jesse! You tell him!
Danny,
Are you taking article requests?
I’d love some proposed trades. Right now, I think Rips value is pretty low, maybe a salary dump and nothing more. I’m kind of curious what you think a Rodney Stuckey/Jason Maxiel trade might fetch on the NBA market. Also, what bigs do you think might be available for the right price?
Seems to me Portland has a lot of bigs tied-up and not enough money and minutes for them all. They could use a Tayshaun Prince.
@ Ahmed.
I was day dreaming about that trade as soon as I heard Melo wants out… What does everybody else think (Danny, this includes you)? Is it at all possible?
Stuckey/Bynum
BG/White
Tmac/JJ/Daye
Melo/CV/Max
Wallace/Monroe
Obviously the above is flexible. This is some serious day dreaming, but one year experiment (he’s gone to New York or some brighter lights next year). Then we have his contract expiring, have some money to go after a big…
On the other side, a one year experiment with a dude that doesn’t necessarily want to be in Detroit could be pretty miserable, as well know. Still, fun to dream.
I posted this before and I’ll post parts of it again and then some!
Frankly, this is the most hysterical I’ve ever seen this website be. And it’s pretty awful. Losing readers and revealing nutty aliases and doubting our fan status? Chillax, please! If we start the season with this line up, then go crazy! None of us is privy to what is actually occurring behind the scenes.
And Boney, you are new, so you should relax too. Throw the topic out there and let us all squabble amongst ourselves. It’s what we do best! And please don’t get so defensive about your opinion. This is basketball, not brain surgery. In the big scheme of things, it is sports entertainment and that’s all.
You have good and smart opinions and so do most of us. Remember though, they are only opinions and are not going to affect reality in the slightest.
You say “…Also, if you don’t like it, then don’t comment on it if you don’t want to interact with a site contributor. You’ll see Natalie comments rarely, so I thought I was offering up a change of pace for you guys. Honestly, it seems like all you want is a “Lord of the Flies” way of managing the comments section and I’m cool with it. I don’t have to comment on your comments, I can let my email inbox fill up with comments from the same people trying to use 5 different names all day long and not respond.
I’m done commenting with you guys. You can have the comment section back….”
Danny, it sounds way too confrontational! Please just relax!!
for the record, danny, i felt talked-down-to when you tried explaining to me that NBA rosters have up to 15 players, 12 of whom suit up on any given night. and this was right after i corrected you on the NBA roster thing, so it was an especially odd time to start giving me lessons on how the NBA works. so, uh, yeah.
Danny says:
“2. Don’t compare yourself to me. ”
That is the attitude I am struggling with, mate. Why can’t we compare ourselves to you? You are a Pistons fan; I am a Pistons fan; Edt is a Pistons fan. So what is there not to compare?
I like the fact that you are being interactive, but the way it is coming across at times is that you are trying to shove your ideas down our throats. We all have the right to be wrong. I want discussion; I also want to respect another man’s right to an opinion, and my right to disagree.
Please take this as constructive criticism. EVERYONE needs to chill out!
Laser
I typed “NBA roster” a sentence after “D League” roster and you told me it was wrong. It’s safe to assume that you were nit-picking and/or looking for something wrong. Why “correct” it? There’s a d league roster and the NBA roster. There’s nothing “wrong” with it
James – I think it’s a better place when interacting happens. “don’t compare me to you” came out because he said he’s a dick so he feels qualified to criticize me because I’m a dick? lol. Sure James, that’s being a piston fan.
Lori –
I’m not “new”. Also, people agree with others who post asinine comments under 6 different names. I think it’s a great idea to throw up a post and let you guys go at it, I’ll take that advice and run with it.
** I don’t have to “be” Natalie. Natalie doesn’t want me to “be” her anyway. **
What’s wrong with wanting to be more like Natalie, she’s super nice, and everyone likes her.
She’s the reason I started reading need4sheed. so many bitter sarcastic web sites where everyone’s got a chip on their shoulder (I like those sites too, the fark comments are vicious and fun) but then there was need4sheed where natalie always had something nice to say, which made it different and cozy
Natalie doesn’t want me to “be” Natalie. I can easily be her, but I wasn’t asked to be a backup Natalie. I also never said I didn’t want to “be” Natalie.
She knew what she was getting when she asked me to come on board. What you’re reading is what she expected out of me, nothing more nothing less.
Blah, blah blah.
Anyway, Yahoo has just rated Stuckey as one of the worst starting PG’s in the league (#28 or #29, I can’t remember which). Is it time to accept the fact that he’s just not very good? I think he’s a decent 6th man… but we still need to find a pure PG.
Stuckey is going to be an all star, the problem is that everyone else last year sucked, when ben gordon is shooting 10% under his career average, this means any time stuckey throws it to bg, and bg clanks one up, stuckey doesn’t rack up an assist even tho he deserved one.
from yahoo, so people dont have to google it
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29. Rodney Stuckey(notes), Detroit Pistons (last year: 22nd)
Stuckey is what Stuckey is. He’s yet to find a balance between acting as a scoring point guard or passing point man, and the unfortunate truth behind those two aspects of his game is that he’s not particularly adept at either. Hardly the return Joe Dumars had in mind when he staved off rebuilding, re-signed Richard Hamilton and brought in Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.
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Yahoo Ranking the point guards put Felton from the nicks and sessions from the cavaliers above stuckey.
that’s ok with me, stuckey will be our little secret. Stuckey will look a lot better next year with a healthy Rip.
Why everyone think that Danny is being a dick?
You know, I’m very tolerant to what others are writing when they are doing it in offensive manner, it’s their choice to write like that BUT
Trere are people like Steve and now ANYONE will tell you that he’s a dick. Anyone who have read any of his hysterical and unacceptable things.
And you know what – he is a dick. Because if someone looks like a rooster, smells like a rooster, acts like a rooster and cock-a-doodle-doo like a rooster – then HE IS A ROOSTER. You know what I mean.
And if someone’s writing when they are doing it in offensive manner, trying to justify himself every time, when anyone can tell him “you’re being a dick”, it’s not something wrong with everybody, it’s not like everybody are fools. It must be something wrong with YOU personally.
And if someone like EDT is giving you advices, and EDT is a clever nice guy who always have a smart opinion – take these advices and work on yourself, man, and tell EDT thank you for not being a dick when he talk to you.
Danny, your ways are good to write for this site, but it’s not for being a mod
the person who made the list is a moron ive been reading his blogs for atleast a year. for one he doesnt like the pistons and constantly ranks us lower than usual. he said we wouldnt win 24 games last year as well and once again he was wrong. he also said dirk was the best pf in the last 10 years. brandon jennings. lou williams, mo williams (haahah, jack felton, holiday, and jose calderon above stuck. please stuck d is better than all of those above.
stuck will be an all star this year just like edt he is our little secert
Ranks us lower cause he dosen’t like us? lol where do you think stuckey ranks? do you know what the purpose of a pg is? allstar lmao
sure it was a bit of a nitpick, but don’t fool yourself into thinking what you’d written before was accurate. it’s not the same. and i suspect you know that since you MADE THE CHANGE. so don’t be defensive. i gave you a good note. a simple “thank you” would do better than all these reasons why you were right. i knew what you meant, but that doesn’t mean what you said was accurate. it wasn’t. stop being defensive about it. i wasn’t “looking for anything wrong,” but i found it easily enough. jumped right out at me. and YOU MADE THE CHANGE. not sure how you can defend your own error WHILE CORRECTING IT. wonders never cease.
the weirdest thing is that i moved on from that to being talked down to. totally different issue. i don’t need to be told about roster sizes and inactive lists. i didn’t go through all of these comments, but i wouldn’t be surprised if people felt like you talked down to them. i sure felt that way. you might be the most defensive person i’ve encountered on the internet.
i was only talking about being talked down to, and you went back to the correction to get even more defensive about it. i’m sure you’re going to get defensive about this too. it really seems like you’re approaching these comments the wrong way. no sense butting heads with anyone or making excuses. there’s always going to be people who give you a hard time when you write something and put it out there. i gave you a minor note and you’ve been CRAZY defensive about it. relax. grow up. it’s the internet.
Laser – “Making a change” isn’t sarcastically crossing through ‘NBA’ and italicizing Pistons active roster, which as you can see is what happened. I corrected it to shut you up, and obviously it didn’t work because here you are still bitching. “Making a change” is actually deleting what was typed and re-typing and giving someone dap in the post at the bottom.
As you can see, I sarcastically crossed through what I typed just to appease you.
Rashit – thanks for you input about edt’s input. I’ll consider it, but for right now him saying he feels qualified to advise me because he’s a dick and I am too, well, no thanks.
Rodney Stuckey needs to score at better than a 40 percent clip from the field to make the All Star team. Especially when guys like Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, etc are in the Eastern Conference. I’m not doubting Stuckey’s talent, I’m just saying there are only so few positions on the All Star team and we all know that fan favorites get voted on to start and then the coaches vote for the backups. Stuckey will need to have an all around monster first half to surpass what Rondo and Rose will likely do.
and by “all around monster” I mean – be among the league leaders at his position in rebounds as well as having respectable assist totals to go along with more efficiency on the offensive end of the ball.
He can be Rajon Rondo-lite when he wants to be, he just has to go get it. It’s supposed to be his team now.
you guys serious? danny, the whole big problem came when you crossed out my comment. ill admit i had aproblem with it i was very mad. but once i aired out my thoughts i got over it. i think for the most part we do like you to comment often on your opinion to what we have to say. BUT EDT is right. (thats just my opinion) you sometimes need to just roll with what someone thinks. even if they are wrong or you just dont agree with them. just leave it at that. you can post things without putting people down, like you did to edt by saying his reading comprehension is low. thats like saying to him you are dumber then everyone else its not my fault. then expect him not to take offence to that? seriously? come on danny we all know you are better than that. you are a good writer you just maybe need to read what you write to someone first and try to put yourself in their shoes to see if it would be offensive. with that being said. everyone else on this site needs to do the exact same thing i just said. there is no reason to put down danny. i know i say take that boney. but i think everyone knows im just messin around. treat each other with respect. what do you think fans of other teams will think if they come to this site and see us fighting amongst each other? pathetic if you ask me. what are we the cavs? no we are THE DETROIT PISTONS. act like the fans of a class act franchise, not like a bunch of ignorant assholes. why do you think i posted that letter as jj to diogenes kid? cuase i knew it was a nice thing to do, and that it would make some ones day better. try to make good decisions with what you post and be kind.
and we dont have to point out every little error like where you meant to sat “rondo-like” not “rondo-lite” by the way. just sayin, take that boney! lol.
say* fuck i messed that one up huh? take that me.
i think we will all be surprised by stuckey this year. 4th year, isnt that about when billups came around? that is a question im not sure. danny? do you know? can you help me out on this?
junior – I crossed out your comment because it was the first one that was vulgar in the entire thread. you’ll notice steve isn’t around anymore.
Also, I meant to type “Rondo-lite” but technically it could be either like or lite. Rondo fills up the box score at each of the key statistical categories. Rondo-lite or Rondo-like would mean Stuckey would fill them up as well, just not as much since Stuckey is more of a scorer than a distributor.
2000-2001 was Billups’ 4th year and if Stuckey has the same year this year, statistically, that Billups had in his 4th year then Stuckey will still be “ahead of pace”. Problem with that line of thinking is, Billups started in his rookie season and then was primarily a bench player. Billups’ 4th year was his 1st year in Minnesota.
Stuckey will never be Billups and Billups will never be able to drive to the basket like Stuckey, in my opinion. Stuckey needs to develop some type of perimeter game to go along with his driving ability otherwise he’ll continue to see defenders pack the lane and wait for him to drive.
in terms of stuckey being an allstar i will say this, if stuckey didnt come to the pistons i believe he would of been an allstar by now, simply because he would of been very score oriented and even though thats what hes doing is being a scoring he’s holding back a lot trying to learn to run the offense as a typical point guard. I mean Will bynum goes off scoring wise and he gets praised to high heaven for it, but stuckey goes off and you’ll get a mix of people a lot of who just say stuckey isnt a point guard, i think theres a double standard with stuckey but also the fact is the teammates he have arent really that good on offense, so he cant be a distributer with the scorers on this team.
Stuckey damn near had the stats to be an All-Star alternate. When Iverson decided to sit out the ASG, Stuckey should have alternated in, but the East choose size (David Lee I believe) instead. Look at his stats before last year’s All-Star break:http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/player/splits/2009/1231900
Also, his points total was way higher in our wins than in our losses. So, where Stuck goes, we go.
hey danny, as far as the crossing off thing-water under the bridge (just dont do it again). danny if you look at the stats, stuckey is already as good as billups was when billups led us to the championship in 04. their numbers (stuckeys last year and billups 04) are identical, as i have posted on here before. my comments were by far Not the first vulgar words. maybe to you as anewcomer, but everyone here will agree i only posted that after i was constantly made fun of and ridiculed by steve. if him not being here is your doing. then you are the man!!! i think everyone will join me in a big thank you for him not being here. you are right danny stuckey will never be billups and vice versa, and he does need to add a perimeter game. ive read that stuckey has been working tremendously hard on his 3-point shot this offseason, along with his conditioning.
@ drew, also the whinersin cleveland wanted mo as a all-star so he got the go ahead if i recall right.
oh ya. . . . take that boney.
nope. danny y can we click in the bottom right of the comment box (ones already posted) and then it takes you to leave a reply to ______ but then when you leave comment its not in their comment box as a reply? you know what im saying?
Mo was on the all-star team last year? He had a pretty mediocre year, as I recall.
Saw that thing rubbish about Stuckey over on Yahoo. Ramon Sessions? Jarrett Jack? please…Edt is 100% right, Stuckey is maligned because he is not playing for a great team, he is a mid round draft pick, and from a college that hasn’t produced many NBA players. I don’t care; I’d rather Stuckey than quite a few of those guys higher on the list.
Danny, we got off to a bad start. Can we move on from the past and start fresh? I want this to be a fun environment again.
@ drew yes he was!!! unbelievable huh? lebron whined and cried till he got his way!! he says there is no way the cavs can have only 1 all star when we have tyhe best record in the nba. someone got hurt lebron lobbied some more(whined) and Kazaam mo was a allstar. stuckey was more deserving.
Junior – if you wrote that thing from JJ to my kid – thanks man! That made his day. He’s five but he can read and his face lit up like Christmas. He loves this site for the cartoon Pistons. The vibe here is not good lately. I almost wish Steve was back – OK not really – but you get my point. I’m taking a screen shot of this posting by the way. I think it’s pretty weird how posts “disappear” and then “reappear”. Thinking about starting my own blog for all of us know nothings who still like to talk about the Pistons – stay tuned.
New guy issue – partly his own fault – talking down to long time followers. Partly – people don’t like change and don’t like any new guy. But hell – if this guy sticks around after this he might be alright. Also – partly we like Natalies posts from a fan’s perspective. And we just like her, right? Dude is like the substitute teacher – I was a kid once and saw it from that angle and I was a sub for a year ten years ago – and I weathered that too. One thing I noticed as a kid and a sub – if you stick around long enough it’s all good and we are on the same team. Let’s go to work.
One thing I really like – keep Steve in Siberia Danny boy! That rocks!
I’m cool with Terrico if he can bring a little of this to the table
http://www.twitvid.com/DMT7H
danny, you are the absolute worst.
Thanks!
KalbasaHIGH
yes i know the point of pg they have to get everyone involved and control the tempo of the game. stuck had no one to rely on last year scoring wise so it force him to take a lot of shot he wouldnt normally take. with everyone getting hurt a lot was put on him which will make him grow this year. like edt said he will get more dimes since now ppl will hit more jumpers since they wont jump back in the game rusty. i dont understand what you dont see in stuck? he takes it to the rim hard and finishes well. he has a pretty good mid range and can create his own shot. plus he plays excellent d and get boards what more do you want? id take stuck over rondo anyday. rondo is way overratted. he plays with 3 hall of famers that opens who opens the floor for him. he does not get 10 assist per game an assist is when you assist someone in making a bucket not just passing to them running off screens. id say he usually gets about 5 assists per game.
Rodney Stuckey – 16.6 ppg, .405 fg%, 3.8 rebounds per game, 4.8 assists per game
Rajon Rondo – 13.7 ppg, .508 fg%, 4.4 rebounds per game, 9.8 assists per game
Rajon Rondo is a better all around point guard, right now. Stuckey has a long way to go, but honestly I don’t believe they’re equals. Stuckey is more offensive oriented whereas Rondo will always be a pesky on the ball defender.
Last year Rondo averaged 4.9 OWS (offensive win shares – wins he helped contribute due to his offensive numbers) whereas Stuckey was a 1.4. Rondo was a 4.7 DWS (Defensive win shares) and Stuckey was a 1.3.
brgulker from DetroitBadBoys and twitter (@brgulker) wrote an extended piece on the Rondo and Stuckey comparison: http://dberri.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/rodney-stuckey-equals-rajon-rondo-2/
rondo is ridiculous. he’s better than stuckey. But I completely disagree with brgulker in not wanting to put our future with stuckey. stuckey is our best player, and his struggles in the stat box are mostly of all the injuries his team had. he was forced to do too much. Everything that will happen next year is going to make stuckey look better, we have monroe who can score on the block, this will help stuckey’s jumper and assists, ben gordon will add between 5 and 10% accuracy, which will help our defensive turnover to transition (which stuckey can generate) because BG would not take the pull up three last year even when it was open. Rip was not himself last year, being able to pass to rip will not only help offensively it will help defensively for stuckey because last year, we asked him to defend and score all night, being able to rest a bit on offensive helps you when you have a difficult defensive job.
I would choose Stuckey over most of the point guards in the NBA right now, but not rondo.
I also think brgulker is wrong in that stuckey has to improve in order to have a breakout year. Stuckey needs to keep doing what he is doing, if only the team stays healthy this year he will still be our best player, but he will look a lot more like an all star.
ehh, we’ll agree to disagree then edt –
Stuckey hasn’t improved noticeably from his 2nd to 3rd year. His point per game totals went up because he played more minutes, but he was more inefficient as a scorer last season. His rebounding and assist totals stayed the same.
The reason why I say this year he will need to have a breakout year is because this is the first year he’s had the same coach going into the next season. Year 1 was Flip, 2 was Curry and now 3/4 is Kuester. If Stuckey is going to take the next step, it’ll logically happen this year.
Thanks for the comment Danny
rondo does not get real assists he did not create the open shot for the other player. he can hit a jumper or free throw to save his life. if he was on a bad team you would see how he really plays. if stuck was on a better team you guys would be on his jock. like i said stucks % was down cause he was pretty much the only person on the team that can create his own shot at the top of the key.
get buck stuck, i got your back show these fools who you are.
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