Free Agency

by Natalie Sitto on July 1, 2010

Joe reaching out to Will Bynum, Ben Wallace and Matt Barnes.

“97.1 The Ticket’s Matt Dery has confirmed a Yahoo sports report that Joe Dumars did contact free agent Brendan Haywood after midnight. Also contacted were Ben Wallace, Will Bynum and Matt Barnes.”  Via 97.1

On a WTF note, Darko Milicic is is getting paid 20 million dollars to play for the Timberwolves.

{ 139 comments… read them below or add one }

Calculeless July 1, 2010 at 9:54 pm

Amir 34m for 5yr
Darko 20m for 4yr
WTF with this world…

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KG July 1, 2010 at 10:31 pm

I would love brendan haywood for us!
Dunno why we would want barnes unless its for sure we’re getting rid of tay…
would love to have will the thrill and big ben back obviously lol

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Tycoon July 1, 2010 at 10:37 pm

Joe is on the right track.
And what’s wrong with Wolves???

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junior July 1, 2010 at 11:47 pm

would also love to see haywood on our team, then we could move monroe to pf. trade rip keep tay his money is off books next year.

pg-will,white (start whomever)
sg-stuckey,bg
sf-tay,dajuan, daye at sg sf
pf-monroe,cv31, jj at pf sf
c-haywood, wallace, maxiell at c pf

very athletic team can run it. i like it u guys?

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junior July 1, 2010 at 11:49 pm

damn the more i look at that the more i like it young and athletic this could be a very dangerous team that is 13 good players, no superstar but a stacked roster.

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James (Australia) July 1, 2010 at 11:55 pm

Don’t know if people realize the implication of what Darko and Amir signed for. Barring a sign and trade, the Pistons are probably out of the running for Haywood now. We only have the MLE – 5.8 million – to offer. If Darko can get 5 mil a year and Amir almost 7 mil a year, Haywood would surely get more.

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ali bazzi July 1, 2010 at 11:58 pm

i have been eyeing haywood since joe d said that we will use the mle this year. and matt barnes!!! that guy scares me. i would never want to fight him. now people will have a reason to be scared of the pistons… matt barnes.. o and i forgot that they are also scared of joe dumars shitiness as a gm lol

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josephmacapagal July 2, 2010 at 2:29 am

haywood will be a good back up for us..we definitely need a big guy that will help us in boards..i love bynumite and big ben to get back…matt barnes is defensive specialist….great roster for us this year..!!DETROIT BASKETBALL

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Magoo July 2, 2010 at 7:38 am

Barnes is the tough scapper off the bench that Joe is looking for.
Heywood would be good, but you are right, the prices just went up. its going to get ugly.

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Diogenes July 2, 2010 at 9:47 am

Man. That cat in Minnesota is something else. What is Laimbeer thinking! Worst GM ever. Just lays all his business out to the press, signs Dorko Mullethead to 5 years! Like Bugs bunny said – “what an idiot – what a maroon!”. They fired Mchale for that cat!?

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Diogenes July 2, 2010 at 10:52 am

OK – what about Amare for Prince and Rip (sign and trade)?

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Magoo July 2, 2010 at 10:57 am

Any trade will likely, hopefully involve Austin Daye

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Jesse July 2, 2010 at 12:10 pm

I don’t think these contracts are really that outrageous by current NBA standards. Both Amir and Darko play D, rebound and block shots. For a young big man who can be a starter 5 or 6 mill a year isn’t that bad. We pay CV the same amount to come off the bench and play zero D. We pay Max about the same amount and he doesn’t even get regular mins.

Also take into consideration that these are not free agent destinations…. by nature they have to overpay guys to get them to stay in places like Minnesota or Toronto.

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Fariduddin July 2, 2010 at 1:51 pm

THATS is hilarious!!!! the special Darko note!

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dirk smith July 2, 2010 at 2:09 pm

JOE D!! trade rip,max,wilcox&2011 2nd rnd+2012 1st rnd 4 Melo. Then C.V.& B.G.&2011 1st rnd+2012 2n rnd 4 Bosh. that leaves Tays exp contract(28yrs old) +@5Monroe,Ben W@4Bosh, J.J.@3Daye&Summers@2Carmello,T.white,@1Stucky,Bynm. (some1 should hire me!!

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dirk smith July 2, 2010 at 2:10 pm

darko sucks

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Amer-ican Prince July 2, 2010 at 4:50 pm

dirk i could not read your post lol

i dont like brandon haywood really but i guess hes the best center available i guess
he just reminds me of kwame too much, big body with bad defense and not that tough really

im still kind of intrigued with darko i think im the only one lol

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Shawn D. July 2, 2010 at 6:03 pm

Ok, first off i love and alway have loved Matt Barnes’ game, BUT we need a big man. We are stocked to the brim with small forwards.

IMO Joe should use the FULL mle on either Haywood or Jermaine Oneal

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Rashit Flawless (Russia) July 2, 2010 at 7:15 pm

Just saw at ESPN in chat
[Comment From John John: ]
Do you think that the Pistons would trade for Boozer?
Friday July 2, 2010 7:13 John
7:14

Zach Harper (Hardwood Paroxysm/TrueHoop Network):
Definitely. Joe Dumars loves trading for guys that will disappoint the fan base.

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DD3 July 2, 2010 at 7:34 pm

Haywood is a good look for us. We need a center that can get us nearly a double double a night. Barnes would be a solid pick for us as well. But at the end of the day, the team as is, will not be competting for anything other than another lottery pick next year. Our only saving grace, is that teams that shedded payroll are not getting those big stars they wanted, & with the few FA’s that they could have gotten to make their teams better are all staying put. The only 2 players most likely leaving it seems areAmare, Boozer & Bosh. All good PF, but where they end up will tell how the East breaks down. Either way, Orl, Bos, Atl, Cha & Mil are the only teams that will be guaranteed spots in the east. Everything else is now up in the air.

Bynum, Stucky, White (PG)
Rip, BG (SG)
Tay, Daye, Summers (SF)
Max, JJ, Wilcox (PF)
Monroe, Ben (C)

We have room for 2 more with the mle & bi anual. Adding Haywood & Barnes along with Monroe makes us better, but barely a 500 team. I don’t like it. We have to make a trade asap. Rip or Tay have to go I hate to say.

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James (Australia) July 2, 2010 at 8:43 pm

You forgot Villanueva, DD3, we have 14 players on the roster.

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Lori July 3, 2010 at 12:46 am

We can afford Matt Barnes right now, can’t we? I don’t think he made that much with the Magic.
I have a feeling that when this crazy free agency period is over, JoeD is going to look like a genius for getting us guys last year. For the teams that win the “big gun” lottery, fine. But for the teams that blew off the past year or so, waiting in vain for a big name to come-ouch! 20 million for Darko? 34 for Amir? The NBA- where amazing happens! And not always in a good way.

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Greg July 3, 2010 at 12:07 pm

Haywood is asking for 10m/year, he’d be nice but I don’t think it’s gonna happen

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Jay July 3, 2010 at 2:36 pm

Joe D. needs to make a trade for Chris Paul, I like Stuckey I respect his game, but he is simply not a point guard he is a shooting guard, Joe if you are istening please consider CP3, otherwise we wont be contenders, we will be a 20 win team for a couple of more years…

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Jay July 3, 2010 at 2:37 pm

Trade for Chris Paul, thats your only hope Joe, becuz if you dont the Pistons are doomed for another 5 years.

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BadBoy July 3, 2010 at 4:25 pm

As a Louisville native, all Pistons fans need to support Edgar Sosa who will be getting ample point guard minutes during the summer league. He’s a fantastic player and i hope he makes the team

As for trades and signings. I think a trade for Darren Collison is more realistic. The Hornets would be insane to let go of (imo) the best point guard in the NBA Chris Paul.

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GODETROIT July 3, 2010 at 4:58 pm

4 WORDS DUDES:

GET YAO WITH MLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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John July 3, 2010 at 5:15 pm

I agree with alot of the post on here Haywood would be a great piece but I dont see him signing and Matt Barnes probably wants to play with a contender so he maybe out of the equation.I think the Next best choice IS J.Anthony from Miami Heat if they dont resign him he seems like a defence of presents that we need because B.Wallace shouldnt Log 34 min s night.But at the End of the Day Until LBJ signs most of these things are just a fantasy.

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Amer-ican Prince July 3, 2010 at 5:22 pm

i heard mike bibby is available we should get him if we can. he’s cheaper then chris paul and hes tougher, then again even austin daye is tougher then chris paul and he’s skinner then a pole

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Amer-ican Prince July 3, 2010 at 5:24 pm

or derek fisher

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GODETROIT July 3, 2010 at 5:52 pm

GET YAO!

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BadBoy July 3, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Yao would cost alot more than a mle…

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rai_from_the_philippines July 3, 2010 at 7:50 pm

Pistons would need a sign-and-trade to make a haywood deal happen

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Greg July 3, 2010 at 11:04 pm

sign Yao for MLE? and why not just sign LeBron for 10 mil instead?

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James (Australia) July 4, 2010 at 2:18 am

As Piston fans, I think we need to start becoming a little more realistic as to the value OTHER teams put on our assets. Do teams really want a 30+ SG with a history of injuries and a contract that still has $25 million to pay out? What about a SF who has played more games then some people do in a career coming off of a back injury?

Are teams going to give Chris Paul, arguably the best PG in the game at the moment for one or both of those two players? If Dumars can get us expiring contracts or a solid starter for the assets we have to offer, he is a better GM then even I give him credit for.

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N1ck July 4, 2010 at 5:56 am

Nicely said James.

You guys need to cut on the fantasy trades…

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N1ck July 4, 2010 at 9:24 am

1. Sign Bynum & Wallace

2. Move Rip or Prince (not both) & Wilcox for a starting center that can score in the paint & defend

3. Gordon & Villanueva havin’ a muuuch better season than the last one…

4. Stuckey finally becoming what we all expect him to be (a man who can lead this team)

5. Further improvement of our youngsters (Daye, Summers)

If all this clicks (and chances are slim for that), even then our chances to reach playoffs this year would be pretty small…

And stop talking bout’ CP3, Parker etc…

We have no money or trade prospect for these guys… And they would rather go to Miami or some other place than Detroit. We have to stay tough in these hard times and build our team as such.

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Lori July 4, 2010 at 11:14 am

Sounds good and realistic to me. But I disagree about reaching the playoffs. We’ll be there alright. I don’t think we’ll go far, but we’ll be there.

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N1ck July 4, 2010 at 12:37 pm

Well, I’m a bit of a pesimist… Last season made me this way… :)

Hope the guys are working on their game for the 2010/2011.
With a solid starting big man, couple of guys improving and a bit of luck with the injuries, we can fight for the spots, sure, why not.

But the fact no1 is that Joe D is gonna have to make something to improve our frontcourt…
Maybe even trade a couple of players we love for a man who will not make us jump our seats… It’s a hard process… Started with CV & BG signings… Oh how i hope these guys pick up their game…

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junior July 4, 2010 at 5:11 pm

trade rip or tay with wilcox in a sign and trade deal for haywood, then i think we would go to at least the 2nd round in the playoffs. i think stuck will be an allstar this year and bg and cv31 will step it back up to at least there career numbers this year. just my two cents worth.

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junior July 4, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Miami Heat president Pat Riley has scheduled a meeting with Dallas Mavericks free-agent center Brendan Haywood(notes) on Saturday in Charlotte, N.C.

Haywood has already had “significant” contract talks with the Mavericks. The Cleveland Cavaliers, Detroit Pistons, Boston Celtics, Toronto Raptors and New York Knicks have also shown interest.

The Celtics and Pistons would need a sign-and-trade to make a deal happen while Toronto needs to first resolve its situation with Chris Bosh(notes). Cleveland won’t engage in serious contract talks with Haywood until LeBron James(notes) has decided his own future.

– Marc J. Spears, 11:50 a.m. ET, July 2

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BadBoy July 4, 2010 at 8:09 pm

Stuckey will not be an allstar.. sorry to say. There’s too many far superior point guards in the East such as Rose, Rondo, Jennings, Arenas etc. And expiring contracts are USELESS to the Pistons. Detroit just like Indiana, and Cleveland (minus Lebron) are too ugly of cities to draw in the big time free agents. We have to rely on draft gems and hopefully tricking some dumb GM into taking our old guys for our future pieces (i.e. Jerry Stackhouse for Rip Hamilton)

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James (Australia) July 4, 2010 at 8:54 pm

@N1ck. Really good points there, mate.

I disagree on the expiring contracts, BadBoy, sure the Pistons might not be able to attract free agents, but the Pistons can use expiring contracts in trade deals.

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Drew July 4, 2010 at 10:35 pm

I think Stuckey can be an all-star. He wasn’t that far off last year. His numbers were good enough at the break that, if a guard would have went down, he could have been picked as a reserve. He’ll keep improving this year. A lot of our success will hinge on Villanueva and Gordon picking it up this year. Few-to-no injuries to Rip and Tayshaun would be nice too. I’m expecting about 35 wins this season. I haven’t seen too much to indicate we’re gonna be a 40+ win team this season going to the playoffs.

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junior July 4, 2010 at 11:12 pm

i think we will win 47 games, 6th seed in the playoffs. stuckey can be an allstar he has the ppg to be one already if he steps up his assts by 3 pg he would be at roughly 8. i think a 17 point 8 asst pg is an allstar, ala billups? i beleive that was his numbers when he was an allstar. astuckey plans on running more and i think that will open up 2 more assts right there by easy transition baskets. but what i really hope happens is rip is traded, stuckey moves to sg. we resign will bynum he starts as our pg. bg comes off the bench as our sg like usual, and hopefully terrico white is far enough along to be a backup pg. (stuck also could fill in some of those min if need be) oh and the person i would like to see rip traded for along with wilcox is haywood. i think we would be solid team then. maybe a 5th seed.

pg- will, white
sg- stuck, bg
sf- tay, daye, summers
pf- monroe, cv31, jj
c- haywood, ben, maxiell
plus whomever joe signs with mle
solid lineup

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N1ck July 5, 2010 at 2:09 am

IMO it’s much easier to move Tay cause he’s got only a year left on his contract.
Don’t like that cause he’s been a Piston right from the start and he’s 2 years younger than Rip.
And I love the guy & his game.
But, as I said earlier, tough decisions are gonna have to be made…
Stuckey an allstar… Dunno, that’s a bit of a longshot you guys.
Personally I would settle with him organizing a Pistons game a bit better… Makin’ us a better team, which has not been a case until now…
Something’s bound to happen cause we have a big imbalance in our team…

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James (Australia) July 5, 2010 at 2:12 am

I’m not going to start making predictions as to where the Pistons will finish next year until the preseason starts. When we know the makeup of each team in the East, then we can start making, at best, educated guesses. The East should be stronger this year – it was so weak last year, it would be hard not to be better – Milwaukee is the only team that I feel reasonably comfortable in saying they will be better next year.

Still a lot to be determined.

Haywood would be nice in a sign & trade, I just don’t see why the Mavericks – who have stated their desire to keep Haywood – would want Prince/Hamilton when they have Caron Butler, Shawn Marion, and Jason Terry.

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N1ck July 5, 2010 at 3:02 am

Stuckey/Bynum/White(?)
BG/Rip/White
Rip/Jonas/Daye/Summers
Jonas/CV/J-Max/Monroe
???/J-Max/Ben/Monroe

My fantasy rotation. :)
30+ wins on a stronger east as James said IMO.
And that’s optimistic my friends.

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DEL July 5, 2010 at 5:26 am

Have you heard that Joe D was in New Jersey last weekend to discuss GM role there?

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Amer-ican Prince July 5, 2010 at 5:32 am

yup de

lhttp://www.northjersey.com/sports/97784594_Talk_with_Dumars.html

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