When a Win makes it worse

by Natalie Sitto on April 15, 2010

Detroit Pistons The Season of BallsThe Pistons did an awesome job coming back from behind and beating the Minnesota Timberwolves last night in their last game of season. The Pistons were trailing the Wolves by 16 in the third quarter, but thanks go out to Charlie Villanueva, who scored 13 of his 16 points in the fourth quarter to secure the 103-98 victory.

Had the Pistons lost, they would would have either tied for the 5th worst record with the Wizards or finished in a three way tie for the 4th worst record with the Wizards and Warriors depending on the outcome of their game.

Forget that…the Pistons are now tied with the Sixers for the 6th worst record in the league. Our lottery Balls dwindled with a win (or two). Detroit now has about a 5% of the number one pick.

That still doesn’t mean the Pistons won’t get a high pick, they still have chances.  Look at the Bulls, they surprisingly got the first pick with a 1.7% chance.

I’m not screaming for the top pick, but up to a 5 would be nice.

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steve April 18, 2010 at 1:38 pm

mike valenti is the only reason i listen to sports radio because he doesnt lather in detroit butter like you all.. your team sucks and will never have a superstar.. u all sucks i laugh when they lose just because i know it ruins all your days.

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Jesse April 18, 2010 at 5:59 pm

Why are people arguing against having a higher draft pick? How does that even begin to make sense? The best prospects are taken at the top of the draft, nobody will ever convince me that it doesn’t matter whether you get the first pick or the tenth; I think people are just rationalizing.

In this years all-star game, 16 of the 28 players selected were top 5 picks. 6 more were drafted in the 6-10 range, and the last 6 were taken later in the first round.
In the 2009 game, 14 of the 26 were top 5 picks. In 2008, 15 of the 26. In 2007, 14 of the 29…. The point is that more than half of the elite players in the league are drafted in those five spots….. And since 1980, The Pistons have had 3 top 5 picks: Darko, Hill and Isiah.

Just to really drive the point home, since the lottery started every team that has made it to the finals had at least one top 5 pick on their roster. It might even go back further than that, but I don’t feel like doing the research.

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junior April 18, 2010 at 6:27 pm

y is that funny?

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junior April 18, 2010 at 6:31 pm

hey jesse not EVERY team had a top 5 pick that went to the finals are you forgetting . . . . . the 04-05 pistons? hello? thats our team and there was NOT a top 5 pick on that team. maybe u should have done the research, lol

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pistons 4 life April 18, 2010 at 6:38 pm

Steve, what does my comment have to do with Joe D’s jock. If anything I was insulting him because his draft history is honesty pretty bad. All I’m saying is that you can still get pretty good players with where they’re most likely going to be picking from.

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edt April 18, 2010 at 6:51 pm

‘sheed 1st round 4th pick by washington bullets, antonio mcdyess though he didnt win a ring, was largely responsible for our playoff success after 05, 2nd pick round 1, darko milicic #2 lol, but if you are being a stats guy junior, sorry but you have to count darko.

If you look at the past success of players, most of them live up to their potential, the reason that players dont is almost always due to injuries, just look at grant hill or antonio mcdyess who both blew their legs out and had to adapt their style of play to be a success.

Then there is the darko or kwame. These are players with tons of potential but zero effort. That is a lot less common reason for a player to be picked high and not success.

There will always be a Ben Wallace in the NBA draft that gets picked last but later people find out he’s awesome.

What generally does not happen though is that a player be picked top 5 and is a bust. That is really rare. Almost always a top 5 pick turns out to be a top 5 player, unless he gets hurt.

The reason that darko is such a horrible awful disaster is because it is so incredibly rare. If NBA GM’s were constantly picking losers in the top 5 picks, then the darko mistake would not be a big deal. But it is a big deal. The worst pick of all time! Which sort of proves the point. If you get a top 5 player you are getting quality.

Later picks can have quality. like Jonas Jerebko who looks to be an all star, or Ben Wallace who has performed at an incredible level for the pistons (even if he did little for cleveland and chicago).

There’s no question getting a higher pick is better. And we had some top 5 picks on our piston team over the last decade.

But it’s also true that there has been no team that has succeeded in winning a championship with less “star power” however you want to define it. No Kobe, no Michael Jordan, no Kobe, no Kevin Garnett. In retrospect though, maybe Billups should have been called our superstar. Because of the way that billups plays, so understated, he’s never gotten enough respect, that is not until he went to denver.

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Jesse April 18, 2010 at 7:05 pm

In addition to Sheed, Dice and Darko, Chauncey was also the #3 pick.

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Lori April 18, 2010 at 8:22 pm

How come we have to put up with steve? Does every site need a resident troll or something? He doesn’t seem to do anything but spew hate. Can he go bye-bye?

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James (Australia) April 18, 2010 at 8:23 pm

LOL, junior, need to be careful when you start sprouting off stuff like that. Make sure you know your facts.

Edt, I have always wondered about that. People harp on about the Pistons being a team that had no superstar, but won a championship, Ben Wallace won FOUR defensive player of the year awards, Billups is constantly being talked about in MVP lists. Prince made a quite a few all- defensive teams, and Hamilton is one of the best scorers in the NBA. We may not have had a 30 point scorer, or a 20 and 10 guy, but there was no doubt we had the best starting five in the NBA.

I would LOVE to get a top 3 pick, but if we don’t we still can get a quality player.

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Jesse April 18, 2010 at 8:48 pm

Actually I was wrong though, Jazz didn’t have a top 5 pick in 97 or 98, and the Trail Blazers didn’t have one in 90 or 92. Its still an overwhelming majority though.

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junior April 18, 2010 at 8:52 pm

i was saying a pick that we drafted, and no i dont count darko only for the fact that he didnt contribute ANYTHING to the team the whole time he was here. but ya ur right i read ur comment wrong you meant where any player was drafted not the respected team they started with. my bad.

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junior April 18, 2010 at 8:54 pm

with the 7th pick in the 2010 nba draft the detroit pistons select

ED DAVIS from the university of north carolina.

solid pick, he has my vote

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junior April 18, 2010 at 8:55 pm

so who do the lions pick 2nd? im going with suh seems very solid.

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Tycoon April 18, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Lets hope for the best on the draft.
Btw, Nat, our last game vs Wolves was a W not an L. Standing is correct though =)

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