And I’m not happy about it….
Via Adrian Wojnarowski the man who seems to know all at YahooSports.com
“The Detroit Pistons have reached agreement with free-agent guard Ben Gordon(notes) on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, a source with knowledge of the talks told Yahoo! Sports Wednesday evening.
The Pistons are continuing to negotiate with forward Charlie Villanueva(notes).
July 8 is the first day free agents can sign contracts.
Gordon and Villanueva, who played together for a year at UConn, traveled to Detroit on Wednesday morning to meet with Detroit president Joe Dumars.”
Over 11 million dollars a year for Gordon….say it ain’t so Joe.
And, if you follow me on Twitter you know…I’m not cartooning Ben Gordon until I find out his contract is under 11 mill. NO TOON FOR YOU!!!!
UPDATE from Dave Dial at MLive
“A 5-year $55 million dollar contract is what Ben Gordon was reported to be looking for, and the starting salary for that deal would by just under $9.5 million. The Pistons have been reported to have $20 million in cap space, so will still have around $10.5 million to spend on other free agents. If Charlie Villanueva agree to a contract starting at around the $7 million dollar range, Dumars will have a little cap space left over to initiate a salary cap trade or to sign a lower level free agent.”
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Please don’t sign Charlie V – he is just like Daye….get Millsap or a starting C (unless Kwame is your 5). I don’t see RIP staying if BG is in town…
Joe Dumars has lost all credibility.
man u guys need to just chill, in my opinion ya i think hes a little over paid but he is going to be GREAT here in detroit, now if joe signs CV and trades rip for a big man i will be a very happy man
oh my goodness. ben gordon is going to develop so nicely defensively. hes gona be the next shane batier.
pistonpost i’m with you, joe dumars just can’t make a good decision in my eyes anymore
Why would you want CharlieV?
any excitement i had with the removal of AI and Curry just went out the window with this signing
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This is ridiculous. 11 Mio for that guy? So Dumars wants to trade Rip… Villanueva is going to be the next “star” for the Pistons? With that kind of group, you should be lucky if you’re reaching the 8th spot in the East. Thank You for nothing.
so do we even have any $ left to sign CV too?
BEN GORDON HUH. WELL ATLEAST (HOPEFULLY) HE’LL BE WILLING TO COME OFF THE BENCH. HES DONE IT IN CHICAGO. BUT IF RIP GOES TO THE BENCH AGAIN THIS YEAR ILL BE REALLY UPSET AND CALL THIS A WASTE OF MONEY
Why wouldn’t you? He’s a poor man’s Sheed minus the attitude and with a post game. He’s only 25, the guy could help s out!
O AND NO ON CHARLIE V. Y WOULD YOU, ID RATHER HAVE SHEED THEN CHARLIE V.
You don’t pay 11 million a year for five years for someone to come off the bench.
Rip is going to be traded.
Fire that fucking stupid ass Dumars immediately!
Hopefully Dumars had a deal in place to move Rip before this news got out, because this announcement (if true) will kill any trade value Rip might of had.
And please, don’t anyone kid yourselves that Gordon will be coming off the bench for that kind of money. No way in hell he and Rip are both on this team!!
GOD DAMNT
Where is Rip going now?
Jazz said that they are looking to trade Boozer now.. which is pretty messed up.. We could have a trade here people.. which I WOULD HATE!
remember when this whiney little baby was crying when Ben Wallace went to chicago about he should be paid more cause he’s a better player? This is bullcrap. And the thing about the championship was they had no glaring weakness, no player could be particularly taken advantage of. Ben Gordon always gets abused by Rip Chauncey and so many others. God seriously why did Joe Dumars give me hope then take it away?
There’s no point in getting salary cap if you have no idea what to do with it Joe D
I want to know exactly what people here complaining wanted and expected him to do. What was he going to do, sign nobody? He has a plan here, guys. I fully expect Rip to be traded for a big man soon. He may already have a deal in place if he went ahead and pulled the trigger for Ben. Numbers wise, Ben is a better player than Rip, and he’s younger. The only advantage that Rip has is height.
I think our beef is with the Money…or at least mine is. For 8 million I’m cool.
A 5-year plan?
Nobody trades bigs for guards
If we trade Rip for a big we’d be paying less for Gordon then we would be for Rip. I have no problem if we trade Rip for a big.
Gordon’s starting contract won’t be at 11mil. It’ll be closer to 9-10million and progressively increase.
Turn off the damn caps lock dude.
Villanueva Comes To Terms With Detroit
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Charlie Villanueva has agreed to a five-year deal with the Pistons. His contract is worth at least $35 million.
Nat, what are your thoughts on CV?
here comes Charlie :
$35 million/ 5yr deal Charlie Villaneuva
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301111
Any link?
Haha…Now it’s offical. this is the worst day in Pistons Free Agent history. Dumars lost his mind.
From a Contender to an absolute joke.
Worst “Free Agent Spree” Ever!
I think this could work out. I would hate to see rip go because he is my favorite player.. but if he is traded then so be it.. It will more than likely land us a big man which we desperatley need.
I think Joe D has Isiah for his advisor
haha natalie did you just become like the soup nazi of toons?
NO TOONS FOR YOU. But I agree natalie
and i agree with C Quense and qhaz
The clippers need to move a big to make room for Blake, i would like to have any of the 3 bigs they have “Kamen, Camby, Randolph”
what’s the point of getting a big man? they wont even touch the ball with ben gordon and will bynum and rodney stuckey.
Now we have Charlie Villinouva who can’t do anything without the ball, and throw tayshaun in the mix? get ready for a lot of 1 on 5 basketball, we may even miss the playoffs.
He’s thin as rail, he has no post game (Duncan, KG, Shaq – they got post game)….CV shoots 38% of his shots from the post….
He doesn’t shoot well as advertised – 32% for career (Sheed is 34% just for reference)..
Furthermore only 5% of his FG’s are dunks….Should I go on….
It’s 02:00 AM in germany right now. I don’t know how to sleep after such news…
Same at my place in Warsaw, Poland….I’m gone
Maybe Joe will get Zeke to be the coach
Charlie V 5yrs for 35m
from ESPN…….
Joe D could have even invited these guys before he made those deals
marvin williams – ATL
trevor ariza – LA
lamar odom – LA
jamario moon – MIA
david lee – NY
hedo turkoglu – ORL
paul millsap – UTA
Relax people. Most of you acted a fool when we got Ben Wallace saying he was too small for the 5 spot and that Sheed was going to be a cancer, yet we won the whole damn thing. Now if Ben and Charlie are the only two pieces, then we have a problem. But if a trade is in the works, this thing might work out…
Yeah Joe u made up for the bad trade with billups for Iverson in getting ben Gordon a dynamic scorer and only 25 years old a Great move
PG-Stuckey
SG-Gordon
SF-Hamilton
PF-Tayshaun
C-Ville
So you traded your best PG since the early 90′s for the ability to overpay Ben Gorden and tie up 20 million+ into the SG position for two players that aren’t all-star caliber
Well done Joe, ^golf-clap^
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cv aint that bad…be avg 16 ppg last year and around 6ish rpg not to mention he shot 45 % from the field
I hope Joe has enough to sign Dyess and a seven footer.
Can he reneg on the deal up until next Wed?
And I almost forgot, both of those shooting guards have terrible contracts that you aren’t gonna get out from under for 4 years.
And if you think your gonna get something good for the 30 year old Rip’s 13 million dollar a year money sink, your badly mistaken.
Good thing Joe Dumars is a genius or you’d be screwed BWHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
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