Comments on: The Pistons vs. The Bucks http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html Detroit Pistons Blog, with NBA News, Videos, Original Desktop Wallpapers, Screensavers and a little hilarity thrown in for good measure. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:53:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Johnny http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25789 Johnny Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:06:47 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25789 Well Kyle, AI scores more and takes more shots becuz he can create with the ball and be efficient something that RIP needs a PG to do... RIP is not a good defender, you may think he is but he isn't. Second game against Washington, for example, he got murdered by Butler but yet he is such a good defender. The 3rd game we played them we used Tay more on him and shut him down. Every two guard pretty much knows they can score on Hamilton. Duhon is decent with scoring this year, don't underestimate him for a second especially on a team like that. I was just wondering how AI out-rebounds rip when there is at least 7-8in difference? The pistons D has been dropping off for a couple yrs now, so don't kid yourself with it being AI's coming that put us here. And if you wanted the AI of 97-01, he would've been a more "about me" player. He knows his role on this team and I feel he is taking it well. He is a PT player that would NEVER come off of any bench. Trust me, you're not hurting my feelings or pride, I'm just showing you truth in it. Well Kyle,
AI scores more and takes more shots becuz he can create with the ball and be efficient something that RIP needs a PG to do…

RIP is not a good defender, you may think he is but he isn’t. Second game against Washington, for example, he got murdered by Butler but yet he is such a good defender. The 3rd game we played them we used Tay more on him and shut him down. Every two guard pretty much knows they can score on Hamilton. Duhon is decent with scoring this year, don’t underestimate him for a second especially on a team like that. I was just wondering how AI out-rebounds rip when there is at least 7-8in difference? The pistons D has been dropping off for a couple yrs now, so don’t kid yourself with it being AI’s coming that put us here.

And if you wanted the AI of 97-01, he would’ve been a more “about me” player. He knows his role on this team and I feel he is taking it well. He is a PT player that would NEVER come off of any bench. Trust me, you’re not hurting my feelings or pride, I’m just showing you truth in it.

]]> By: Kyle http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25758 Kyle Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:45:01 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25758 ai scores more per game because he takes more shots. ai is inefficient, i'm sorry, but he is. Rip happens to be extremely efficient. rip is also a better defender, i don't feel i need to argue this, but up until this year (coincidence?) the pistons have been a defensive juggernaut with rip playing bulk minutes. iverson has never been known for his defense or been on a team known for their defense. in fact he was universally mocked as a leader of the Enver Nuggets. 3 steals per game are negated when guys like chris duhon light you up like a christmas tree. you're right about ai's individual accolades. if we could get the 97-01 iverson, i'd make him a starter without question. however, that don't mean jack right now. this team needs to win games, not awards, and i'm sorry if the egos of ai and his fans are hurt, but strategically he'd be of more use to us coming off the bench. however, if he can't handle that and would rather take his ball and go home, i'll understand it. hell, i'll expect it. ai scores more per game because he takes more shots. ai is inefficient, i’m sorry, but he is. Rip happens to be extremely efficient.

rip is also a better defender, i don’t feel i need to argue this, but up until this year (coincidence?) the pistons have been a defensive juggernaut with rip playing bulk minutes. iverson has never been known for his defense or been on a team known for their defense. in fact he was universally mocked as a leader of the Enver Nuggets. 3 steals per game are negated when guys like chris duhon light you up like a christmas tree.

you’re right about ai’s individual accolades. if we could get the 97-01 iverson, i’d make him a starter without question. however, that don’t mean jack right now. this team needs to win games, not awards, and i’m sorry if the egos of ai and his fans are hurt, but strategically he’d be of more use to us coming off the bench.

however, if he can’t handle that and would rather take his ball and go home, i’ll understand it. hell, i’ll expect it.

]]> By: Johnny http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25750 Johnny Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:44:19 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25750 Ok Kyle since you like stats and all (Iverson vs. RIP) lmao: Iverson PPG- 18.2 Career- 27.7 RIP PPG- 17.1 Career- 17.8 Iverson SPG- 1.7 Career-2.2 RIP SPG- 0.6 Career- 0.8 Iverson RPG- 3.6 Career-3.8 RIP RPG- 3.3 Career- 3.3 RIP Accolades: MVP-no All Star- 3-4 times? Championship Ring Career High of 51 pts Iverson Accolades: MVP- yes (2001) All Star- 11? (not to include MVP there too) Scoring titles- 4 17th All time in Career Scoring 3rd all time in PPG NBA ROY (96-97) Career High of 60 Not to include taking a no name 76er team to the finals against a stacked Laker team (01-02) Just thought you would like the stats and all...I mean that is what you were goin by right? As far as on D, they both are bad you are just tryin to choose the best of the worst so good luck with that... Ok Kyle since you like stats and all (Iverson vs. RIP) lmao:

Iverson PPG- 18.2
Career- 27.7

RIP PPG- 17.1
Career- 17.8

Iverson SPG- 1.7
Career-2.2

RIP SPG- 0.6
Career- 0.8

Iverson RPG- 3.6
Career-3.8

RIP RPG- 3.3
Career- 3.3

RIP Accolades:
MVP-no
All Star- 3-4 times?
Championship Ring
Career High of 51 pts

Iverson Accolades:
MVP- yes (2001)
All Star- 11? (not to include MVP there too)
Scoring titles- 4
17th All time in Career Scoring
3rd all time in PPG
NBA ROY (96-97)
Career High of 60
Not to include taking a no name 76er team to the finals against a stacked Laker team (01-02)

Just thought you would like the stats and all…I mean that is what you were goin by right? As far as on D, they both are bad you are just tryin to choose the best of the worst so good luck with that…

]]> By: det fan http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25749 det fan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:40:53 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25749 aaron is a dumass!!! rip is doing better than ai!!! aaron is a dumass!!!
rip is doing better than ai!!!

]]> By: aaron http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25745 aaron Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:56:37 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25745 heres the deal.. the team is starting to play a lot better from the past few weeks but i still think rip (who is my favorite piston) should come off the bench.. having a hall of fame player come off the bench just does not make sense to me (a.i. that is)... the line up should be as follows Stuckey Iverson Prince Wallace McDyess and the 2nd string should be Bynum Rip Afflalo/Hermann Maxiell Johnson/Brown Both are very effective lineups and could do some damage.. you wont play out of position.. except probably for afflalo but he is a taller and bigger player than rip so it really wouldnt matter.. Rip is slipping... hate to say it but he is, they played the best game that i've seen them play in a while the other night against the bucks without rip and just think if he came off the bench with the 2nd string.. who couldnt hit a shot the other night at the end of the game and almost blew it (the prince came and saved the day), give it a try like we gave the first lineup a try and are giving this small lineup a try, if it fails then go back, it couldnt hurt heres the deal.. the team is starting to play a lot better from the past few weeks but i still think rip (who is my favorite piston) should come off the bench.. having a hall of fame player come off the bench just does not make sense to me (a.i. that is)… the line up should be as follows

Stuckey
Iverson
Prince
Wallace
McDyess

and the 2nd string should be

Bynum
Rip
Afflalo/Hermann
Maxiell
Johnson/Brown

Both are very effective lineups and could do some damage.. you wont play out of position.. except probably for afflalo but he is a taller and bigger player than rip so it really wouldnt matter..

Rip is slipping… hate to say it but he is, they played the best game that i’ve seen them play in a while the other night against the bucks without rip and just think if he came off the bench with the 2nd string.. who couldnt hit a shot the other night at the end of the game and almost blew it (the prince came and saved the day), give it a try like we gave the first lineup a try and are giving this small lineup a try, if it fails then go back, it couldnt hurt

]]> By: Richie http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25743 Richie Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:52:46 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25743 I think Kyle raises several good points in the arguement to bring AI off the bench. Frankly, I don't think Allen would mind at least trying it out if he is in fact devoted to the team concept that he says he is. That doesn't just mean not being a ball hog, if it means giving up your starting roll but still playing the same number of mintutes, that's included in the team concept. I think Kyle raises several good points in the arguement to bring AI off the bench. Frankly, I don’t think Allen would mind at least trying it out if he is in fact devoted to the team concept that he says he is. That doesn’t just mean not being a ball hog, if it means giving up your starting roll but still playing the same number of mintutes, that’s included in the team concept.

]]> By: C-Quense http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25742 C-Quense Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:03:53 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25742 With Kwame or Amir starting, the Pistons are a much better defensive team and thats what counts most. This small ball thing maybe works out against teams like Golden State, Sacramento, Oklahoma... but not against better teams. AI isn't aible to get Rip rollin. I mean Rip was the most important factor in the offense for years. We need him to get back to this. With Kwame or Amir starting, the Pistons are a much better defensive team and thats what counts most.
This small ball thing maybe works out against teams like Golden State, Sacramento, Oklahoma… but not against better teams.
AI isn’t aible to get Rip rollin. I mean Rip was the most important factor in the offense for years. We need him to get back to this.

]]> By: pistons 4 life http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25741 pistons 4 life Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:36:46 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25741 Richie, my bad about minutes played for Amir. I wasn't actually looking at a stat sheet or anything. Just trying to go off memory. Whatever happens with this lineup and rotations Curry better figure it out pretty quick here and just stick to it. You can't just keep changing all the time. These players need some consistency. Richie, my bad about minutes played for Amir. I wasn’t actually looking at a stat sheet or anything. Just trying to go off memory. Whatever happens with this lineup and rotations Curry better figure it out pretty quick here and just stick to it. You can’t just keep changing all the time. These players need some consistency.

]]> By: altan http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25740 altan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:03:54 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25740 i dont really think amir is tht great of a player other than offensive rebounding, thts a really rare talent he brings, hes not the best defensively either, too many fouls, but can jump high for block i dont really think amir is tht great of a player other than offensive rebounding, thts a really rare talent he brings, hes not the best defensively either, too many fouls, but can jump high for block

]]> By: det fan http://need4sheed.com/2008/12/the-pistons-vs-the-bucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-25739 det fan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:26:46 +0000 http://need4sheed.com/?p=2707#comment-25739 ALSO..RIP SHOULD BE A STARTER BECAUSE HE IS THE **CAPTAIN** OF THIS TEAM! ALSO..RIP SHOULD BE A STARTER BECAUSE HE IS THE **CAPTAIN** OF THIS TEAM!

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