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Antonio in red, white and blue.
Stuckey starting.
Richard Hamilton with 29 points.
A 15 point lead gone to waste.
Amir and Maxiell and Kwame Brown with DNP’s.
A loss to the 3-and-15 Wizards……………….
Priceless
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December 10, 2008 at 6:46 pm
not sure what they expect from that trade other than maybe cap relief later
December 10, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Kyle and D Town suckas!, you make some very good points about the “Rip/A.I. who to bench?” debate and you have changed my mind.
Start Rip, bring A.I. off the bench!
As I said before I’m not ready to call it a day on Curry but the thought of Eddie Jordan coaching this team has got me thinking of the possibilities.
December 10, 2008 at 7:52 pm
the pistons had very lackluster starts to the 03-04 and 04-05 seasons and look where they finished. they played very well for almost the entire 05-06 ond 07-08 regular seasons and look how they finished. they have a new coach and a new offensive gameplan. they’ll figure it out.
December 10, 2008 at 8:41 pm
yea i dont see why he wouldnt try and trade for amare its not like he plays amir anyways so whats so great bout our future center riding the pine pony??? how is he so good? if he was good he would be playin and not gettin DNP so try and trade him
December 10, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Also, the Pistons last reached the Finals when they were not the #1 or #2 seed in the conference (in both 04 and 05).
December 10, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Curry is defensive minded, he knows that you need that defensive toughness to be competitive in this league. Its up to the players to play hard, i don’t see that. People expect great things by looking at our roster on paper, but we are still trying to find an identity, especially defensively. What we need is that toughness, especially inside. It’s a marathon not a sprint, once we get another 20 games in we will be able to make a better assessment. Dyess is a huge key to our team and will help a lot wit his leadership, hustle and toughness. We need to put sheed on the block and let him go to work, we have no interior scoring. We have the shooters but a solid low post scorer would give us a balance that would keep the defense on their heals. Good things take time.
December 10, 2008 at 9:32 pm
TCpiston:
I choose eddie jordan over the others because, during his stay in washington, he turned that team around (except this year) with three all-stars and a crappy bench. He even contended for the COY award a couple of years back. So I don’t see why he can’t succeed with a starting line up of unselfish(except AI) quasi-all stars, and a deep bench. And I don’t believe you when you said I put up some ‘ignorant shit’ in my previous post. Peace!
December 10, 2008 at 9:38 pm
btw, natalie rules.
December 10, 2008 at 9:39 pm
lets call rick mahorn to play again… and bill to play, not coach.
December 10, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Everyone just relax…if you guys were real detroit fans, u wouldnt care wats going on…i personaly believe that by january, we will be doing fine.Starting line up looks great, but the coach… not so much. The pistons squad are championship material, its just the coach, c’mon losing against the worst teams in the NBA… not cool… Anyways, the factor is time…. thats all … Time.
December 10, 2008 at 10:16 pm
hey steve u said we didnt win it with the 1st or 2nd seeds but we sure as hell wont win it with the 7th or 8th if thats even what we get
December 10, 2008 at 10:33 pm
That’s true, but I don’t think anyone thinks this team is gonna be a #7 or #8 seed come April.
December 10, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Amazing how fast fans will bail out on a team in rough patches…and amazing how fast they’ll jump back on the bandwagon. I’m reading comments such as “Joe Dumars has screwed this team over” and “Maxiell is way overrated.” Are you kidding me? Maxiell is not getting voted to any all star games yet he makes huge blocks and dunks every game. Who’s exactly rating him so high besides Pistons fans? And I wont’ even touch upon the Joe D comments….ridiculous comments.
If you notice one thing…everyone seems to have the no fail way to fix this team (trade AI, start Stuckey, fire Curry, etc.). Everyone has a different opinion and yet the only one with the wrong one is Curry/Dumars. I agree with most that Curry has made mistakes with lineup changes but is it not inevitable when you’re tyring to figure out what works? And is it not even more inevitable when you’re starters are playing with no passion? It only makes it harder.
All I’m trying to say is we need to stop crying “fire this person and trade this person” every time we lose. We’ll get better. We have too much talent and nobody seems to know how to sort it out yet so it can all come together. In the mean time, stop bashing everyone from Joe Dumars to the towel boy.
I’m sure Cavs fans love reading the negativity in these threads. We’re better than this. Go Pistons.
December 10, 2008 at 10:56 pm
You guys all get excited and shit when they win BUT, when Pistons lose, you guys all outrage and rant. Your supposed to like your team wheather or not they win. >:]
December 10, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Steve what seed do u see us being come april?
December 10, 2008 at 11:29 pm
That depends on a lot of things….
But for now I’m thinking 4th seed….maybe 5th.
December 10, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Just Fire Curry
And hope Larry Gets Fried to
SO the pistons could get a real coach back
December 11, 2008 at 3:59 am
does everyone really think we would of won a championship this year if Chauncey was still here???? hell no!! we woulda fell apart in the playoffs like the past couple years. and you can’t blame Iverson for everything. quit using him as a Sscapegoat!!!
Stuckey
AI
Tay
Sheed
Dyess
Rip could come off the bench cause he brings instant offense. he could be like what Jason Terry brings dallas
December 11, 2008 at 4:35 am
ok folks here’s whats got to happen.. atleast for the remainder of this season(unless they decide to move him before the trade deadline), this has to be iversons team in order for them to takeoff and start winning consistently. you traded for iverson the answer, not iverson the role player.. you remember way back when he got his first couple wins for detroit against the kings and warriors, he scored about 25-30 and had 7-10 assists, played a lotta minutes, had a few steals.. well thats the man this team needs every game, and he can be that man every game, but for some reasons he’s not.. he’s being way to unselfish to try to fit into this team, but right now this isn’t a team. i dont know if someone is telling him to only take 11 12 shots a game, but if they are they need to do the opposite. detroit needs him to takeover right now and get this thing on the right track.. they are something like 6-1 or 6-2 when he scores 20 or more, and horrendous when he fails to reach 20…please someone somehow get that message to him, otherwise I’m canceling my league pass and throwing in the towel for this season. its way too frustrating to watch bc i know what he is capable of doing on nightly basis..i am one of his biggest fans and supporters, but i do realize he is not a natural point guard, he lacks the ability to run an offense like a natural PG would, make the decisions that a floor general like chauncey could make, and his defense greatly needs improvement. BUT, you traded for this man BECAUSE he can score the ball with the best of them AND create havoc and chaos for a defense, which is what you need to beat a great defensive team like cleveland or boston in the playoffs… CURRY please bring rip off the bench, and or get a real pg for this team (im sorry, but i think stuckey is more a scoring type pg too), and play AI at the 2.. this team needs better bench play and how sick would it be to see mcdyess and rip both come off the bench and play 25 min a game. ’sheed needs to post up more, and be more consistent. i think a fired up AI can help fire him up and bring him to life, we saw them both dominate the 4th quarter of the spurs victory… one area CURRY needs to help work on with AI and the rest of the team defensively is how they are going to play pick and roll/pop, because teams are setting picks on AI left and right when he’s covering the ball, and there seems to be major miscommunication there on whether to switch or not and what to do.. sure that up, get a solid starting lineup and stick with it (ai, stuck, tay, amir or max, and sheed), and get the rotations down, allow AI to be AI, and if hes not being himself, someone tell him to be more aggressive, and emphasize defense, and i guarantee this team will get much better… i can only hope, they cant get much worse. AI hates to lose but right now he feels like this team is already great and established and he just wants to fit in, and contribute, but by him being here instead of chauncey, he needs to realize this is his team, and he needs to be much more than that. when this happens, youll see the AI you envisioned when you heard about the trade.
December 11, 2008 at 7:13 am
what is wrong with Iverson,when I heard Iverson came in pistons I say:wow,pistons is new NBA champions,but IVERSON IS SUCKS,Stuckey is better.Pistons now have 11-9,three lost game in row,horrible.If they caming to loss game vs.Wizards,76-ers,NYK they won`t win champion ship
December 11, 2008 at 10:26 am
Pistonsbaby01 “i doubt joe would ever trade amir”
WHAT?! why should he even deserve to be on this team? he lost his starting spot twice!.. all u need4sheed tools are in love with a under weight scrub that was takin late in the 2nd round..he will never be anything but a 12th man.. he isnt gonna be shit in this league and dumars fucked up by not trading him when he was a mystery to other teams..now hes exposed and no one wants him..good move.
pistonsbaby01 go watch save the last dance one more time u need it.. haha tool
December 11, 2008 at 11:10 am
STOP THE AI HATE.
There is absolutely no reason for it. The problem is chemistry; ya know how Chauncey had.. 5 years to develop chemistry with this core? yea, AI has had three weeks.
Curry is absolute shit.
I have lost all respect for Joe D, hiring a friend of his to coach a team at this level.. wow. And he will never fire him because they’re pals, and he’ll never step down because hes being paid way too much money to do something way above his capability.
Michael Curry = Matt Millen.
December 11, 2008 at 11:38 am
ok let’s not blame one individual(even though i would like to have curry fired, cuz i knew from the start he would be bad). i would have to say it’s the entire team. They need to start playing right defensively…it’s ridiculous how teams just run right through a lane or can get open shots when they want now. I don’t think that just blaming iverson would be the solution, i think it would happen even if we had chauncey still. It just is upsetting to everyone to see there beloved pistons go down like they are, but we still have 62 more games to go, let’s not just give up on ‘em becuz of a bad skid in the road. We have to stay positive.
December 11, 2008 at 1:36 pm
With a further note I have to agree with Mark with this one: “Now Joe turned this team into shit? Other than having a record of 11-9 I really haven’t noticed a difference. Steve, maybe you could explain it? Because last I checked, it’s still the same team that comes out with a big lead, and blows it. The same team that plays only when they want too, they’re the same inconsistent team. We weren’t going to win with Chauncey anymore, this was the best trade we could have done because we can finally rebuild.”
It was too predictable. Let’s face it did Chauncey really do that much as of recent 2 seasons? Love the guy (he was my fav player), but i didn’t see the drive out of him like I did when we used to dominate the east. I see it rekindled in Denver a bit, but i think Denver needed a confidence booster and they got it. As far a Big Ben goes…SCREW HIM! Remember he left us! Not the other way around…I was so mad at him for being so selfish like that and he was at the peak of his career when he went with us, now he’s garbage. I did think that Billups would of finished his career here but now that we made the change it doesn’t really matter anymore. I think we can turn this little mishap around. People are always so quick to blame AI for this…I guess that’s what gave him the drive he’s had his whole career is people like you who hate on him constantly…Even if we don’t end up having a fairy tale season and don’t resign AI, I respect the little guy and the things he’s accomlished in this league of giants. Hand’s down one of the greatest to ever walk the hardwood…face it champion or not…
December 11, 2008 at 3:48 pm
No Chad, Michael Curry < Matt Millen.
December 11, 2008 at 4:46 pm
iverson sucks go back 2 denver
December 11, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Ben Wallace didn’t just leave for more money. He left because he knew that from that point on DEFENSE wouldn’t be a priority anymore because of Flip Saunders, and that’s where he hangs his hat. And as for the statement that he’s garbage, I’d say he’s playing his role pretty well in Cleveland. I was pissed when he left too, but man do we sure miss him. And just think, there’s a good possibility that he wins a title this year.
I’m not saying this because I’m at all a Cleveland fan, but him leaving marked a downturn for the Pistons.
December 11, 2008 at 7:50 pm
It seemed like Rasheed and Tayshaun played the entire second half and rip, iverson, and stuckey got short rests but not too significant, only for McDyess to play while johnson and maxiell rode the bench for some reason. Could someone explain the logic in letting a small lineup play most of the game with a lead, while blowing it and staying in and eventually getting exhausted. what happened to the bench? and it seemed like curry didn’t draw up any defensive plays at all second half, and not much offensive either, there was a point when the Pistons were losing their lead and a player, i forgot who, took a quick shot, bricked it, someone else got the long rebound, turned around and shot before they could even see the basket, then iverson gets another long board and puts it up before the ball crosses below his chest. i dont even know what is happening to this team, but when they play the terrible teams in the league, its like watching a jv high school team
December 11, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Now I see why Joe was so hesitant to change the core for so many years… I mean look at them. The Pistons formula has to be recreated in the middle of the season and Im talking about big changes in the way they run almost everything, the good thing is that we have an experienced coach. NOT! As of now this is a rude awakening, it appears Chauncey was More than a great point guard, he was underestimated by many of us at the time of the trade. Allen is a great player, but Im losing my hopes of him playing Detroit Basketball with the guys. I like the cap space for the future, but since the trade they went from #1 in offensive efficiency, a 4-0 record, and a margin of victory of 10 ppg to a 7-9 team with a margin of loses of -0.6.
December 11, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Wow, this has got to be some kind of record for comments. Too many for me to read, so I doubt too many people will read mine, but I have to agree with CHAD. There is too much talent on this team for us to lose to Washington and then Boston stomps them by 34. Ridiculous. I subscribed to the growing pains shit for a while, but the only rookie we really have affecting us is Curry. Gotta toss him. And I REALLY agree with CHAD in that I think Avery Johnson would be a great coach for this team. He was a great coach for Dallas (minus the meltdown to the Heat,) but we melted down to the Heat before that. Too much talent on the court and a coach that isn’t making it work…
December 11, 2008 at 11:34 pm
DETROIT BUCKEYE just blew my mind… Lambier as coach? Could it happen in any universe. 2 WNBA titles under his belt and a Bad Boy for life? In a perfect world…
December 12, 2008 at 8:41 am
Pistons4life- what would his role in cleveland be not much of one if you ask me…he doesn’t do much anymore, they would still be fine without him around, if anything he was on the downturn as well let’s face it bro. I understand he went becuz of Flip, but i also realize that he let down a lot of fans and we pretty much made his career here, not cleveland or chicago, us…